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LunarLaugh
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Topic: OT: Radio sourcesPosted: 24 March 2026 at 4:37pm |
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Just curious to know if anyone here knows what CD promo services (HitDisc, Chartbusters, etc.) KRBE and KHMX in Houston might have been using in the 1997-2001 time frame? I know they probably played regular promo CDs, too.
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aaronk
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Posted: 24 March 2026 at 11:52pm |
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Were major market stations using services like HitDisc? I always assumed stations in those markets had such great service they didn't need to pay for HitDisc or similar promo services. Medium and small market stations that didn't have top-tier label service might have benefited from TM and Hitmakers, though. We certainly used them at our small-market rural top 40 in northern Michigan.
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CountryPD
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Posted: 25 March 2026 at 8:00am |
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Agree with Aaron that most major market radio stations always received excellent service from record labels and had no need for other sources. Companies that compiled multiple new releases on a single CD were mostly for smaller market stations or club DJ's.
CDX was a company specifically created for country releases. They provided free discs to the smaller country stations to save the major labels from doing so. CDX discs mostly included the radio versions/remixes/single edits. At the dawn of the CD era TM began to offer "oldie" music libraries on CD. A significant number of radio stations subscribed to them as many oldies were not yet commercially on compact disc. However many of the tracks were sourced from vinyl with noise reduction applied. Some also had inaudible "tones" embedded at the end of songs for automation systems. |
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Hykker
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Posted: 25 March 2026 at 6:16pm |
I've worked at several small market country stations, and agree those CDX discs were a lifesaver. Another source smaller stations used at least in the 00s & 10s was newmusicserver.com. I don't know if they're still around. One of the PDs I worked with gave me his login, but that was 15+ years ago, and last time I tried it, it didn't work. I know Top Hits USA used tones to trigger automation systems, but, at least in the 90s TM used the index function on CDs to perform that function. |
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Posted: 26 March 2026 at 2:23am |
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I know the big top 40 in Tulsa I worked at in 1989 and 1990 was getting MULTIPLE copies of CD singles from the labels... so much so that he was begging part time staff (like me) to take crates of CD singles home. (Most of them were songs we DIDN'T play, to be fair.)
The big country station I worked at in 1998, though, had a huge library... I think it was TM Century? Not sure; some library, could have been CDX. I later worked at the other Top 40 in town, and they had a mix of CD singles from the labels, and compilation CDs... so I'm not sure there was a pattern. |
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Posted: 27 March 2026 at 10:03pm |
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Spencer Morasch (ex-WABCRadio77 on YouTube) had a video of the 45 of Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" with "CARTED" written on the sleeve, and he said it was from WPLJ in New York City. So even in 1987-1988, major-market radio stations were still receiving new music on 45s (and copying them to tape "carts" to play on-air), rather than on CD.
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Hykker
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Posted: 28 March 2026 at 6:56am |
In the late 80s the labels were inconsistent about what promo singles were released on CD vs 45. While I never worked in a large or major market, promo service in the mid-sized market I was in was a mix even into the early 90s. Stations used carts for a number of reasons...to get around cueburn/record wear/bad pressings, because it was easier for the jocks and to prevent DJs from playing stuff they weren't supposed to. |
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CountryPD
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Posted: 3 hours 55 minutes ago at 7:51am |
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Regarding country promo singles in the late 80's/very early 90's it was similar to the scenario with pop radio as outlined in the previous post by Hykker. Initially some single releases were sent on CD while others were still on 45's. Most of the major labels periodically released multi-artist CD compilations that aggregated recent single releases. Many stations (like mine) used those CD's as the source for transferring songs to broadcast tape cartridges for airplay.
I recall that initially there was a lack of CD manufacturing facilities so record labels had some limitations in that regard. As more CD plants came online it allowed promo CD singles to proliferate. One of the early limitations for CD's airing on radio stations was not having CD players available! My station's first CD player was a higher-end SONY deck obtained with an advertising trade-out with a local appliance dealer. Initially we only had ONE so it was installed in our production room where we would use it to dub music to tape cartridges. Some months later we acquired two more that were installed in our main studio so we could finally play music from CD direct to on-air. About a year later our capital budget allowed us to replace the SONY decks with Denon professional broadcast CD players. For quite a while we continued to use a mix of CD's & tape cartridges on air. It was a few years before many country oldies had CD availability. Also many of the single edits/remixes were unavailable on compact disc (to this day there are still hit radio versions with no digital availability) That's why many stations used a service like TM to obtain oldies on CD. Edited by CountryPD - 3 hours 53 minutes ago at 7:53am |
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