https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 16:07:29 +0000 Sun, 16 Feb 2025 10:49:48 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8574 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=65750&title=elton-john-your-song#65750 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 8574
Posted: 16 February 2025 at 10:49am

Fastphilly wrote: Yes I am missing a few of his Uni and Congress promos. I have only "Tiny Dancer", "Honky Cat" and "Rocket Man". I have most of his MCA promos and none of them contained shorter promo only edits. First time posting on this site. Love it!!

Glad to see you new here in 2016!]]> Sun, 16 Feb 2025 10:49:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=65750&title=elton-john-your-song#65750 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=65621&title=elton-john-your-song#65621 Author: LunarLaugh
Subject: 8574
Posted: 12 January 2025 at 11:55am

I noticed the database doesn't current notate the presence of the 1983 remix on the Greatest Hits CDs. Can this be changed?

Also a little tidbit, I recently came across a recording I made off air of oldies 107.5 KLDE-FM in Houston from the early 2000s and they were
playing the 1983 remix of "Crocodile Rock"(!).

Edited by LunarLaugh]]> Sun, 12 Jan 2025 11:55:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=65621&title=elton-john-your-song#65621 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=51437&title=elton-john-your-song#51437 Author: Tom Daly
Subject: 8574
Posted: 05 March 2019 at 8:55pm

The promo 45 of "Tiny Dancer" is an early-faded 3:48 (according to the label) abortion, and the UNI stock single is the same as the LP version with a label time of 6:12. Both are stereo.

MMathews wrote: David, that remix you describe with the drums in the center dates back the to the 1983 European album "The Superior Sound Of Elton John 1970-1975" on DJM records. I bought it on import vinyl in 1985. The top of the cover says "remixed from the original multi-tracks into a new dimension of sound." Later on a buddy graciously burned me a copy of the CD. Some of these remixes have since leaked onto other CD's..particularly "Daniel" which was presented in its original form, without the re-editing that was done for the hit release. I didn't know "Your Song" also appeared elsewhere. The sound quality is amazing but overly "crisp" .. they really topped out the hi-end, I think to demonstrate how well these tracks were engineered. I particularly enjoy the remix of "Funeral For a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding." RE: Your Song MONO 45 mix .. this should have been a bonus track on the album re-issue. Thanks to Jim I only just recently heard the mono mix for the first time. It's quite different! The strings are mixed differently and the most noticeable thing is added reverb on his voice. Then starting with the words "I sat on the roof" .. they cranked the reverb up to high so it has a very "60's" feel to it. That now leaves me curious about his other few mono 45's. My next one to seek out will be "Tiny Dancer". [Edit: thanks to Jim I now know "Tiny Dancer" had no mono mix, not even on the promo... so nothing to report there] MM

]]> Tue, 05 Mar 2019 20:55:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=51437&title=elton-john-your-song#51437 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=50982&title=elton-john-your-song#50982 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 8574
Posted: 16 January 2019 at 9:52pm

I find it fascinating that the mono 45 of Elton John's Your Song has basically been forgotten on CD. We all now seem to accept the stereo version, as it has appeared hundreds of times on comps and Elton John's own collections. Of course if choosing one, there is no comparison, I would much rather hear Your Song in Stereo.]]> Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:52:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=50982&title=elton-john-your-song#50982 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=50948&title=elton-john-your-song#50948 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 8574
Posted: 10 January 2019 at 10:24pm

For "Your Song":

Mono version

It's a dedicated mix that never showed up on CD. Buy a 45.

Stereo version

This mix will likely sound wrong to your ears. The drums are panned pretty drastically, in a manner that may not quite feel familiar to you. (I'll explain below.)

I don't have the original MCA CD release of Elton John (copyright 1970, original CD release on MCA in 1987), but it's a safe bet that this is the earliest CD release of the original stereo mix of the song.

What I do have is Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 2 1971 (1989), where it sounds quite nice. Excellent dynamic range, no clipping, nice EQ, hissy fade, and no hint of noise reduction. Because some later Elton John CDs use this same analog transfer, I would guess that this is likely a digital clone of the original MCA release Elton John, but can't confirm. The same analog transfer is used on:

• Time-Life Superhits Vol. 4 1970 (1990) - left and right channels are correct, unlike later Superhits discs
• Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 2 (1990) - this disc is the same as Superhits but with different packaging
• MCA's 4-CD To Be Continued (1990) - absolute polarity inverted, which doesn't affect the sound at all
• Selections From The Elton John Collection (1992) - is this a promo only disc?
• Time-Life's Singers And Songwriters Vol. 31 Classics (2001) - digitally identical
• Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 3 Into The Night (2006) - differently EQ'd digital clone

The original stereo version also turns up on PolyTel Canada's 2-CD Brit's Blitz (1987), but this disc sounds pretty terrible overall. The mastering isn't based on any of the above.

Non-hit 1983 remix

The CD The Superior Sound Of Elton John 1970-1975 (1983) is made up entirely of fresh new mixes from the multi-track tapes. All the tracks sound crisp and clean, but all are modernized in some manner, whether it's increasing the dynamic range, or centering some elements that were more panned in the original mix. Ultimately, you can't really recreate the magic of the original hit mixes, so we'll label this disc as a fantastic-sounding curiosity in the Elton John catalog.

"Your Song" was one of the songs on Superior Sound, and the new mix centers the drums, rather than pans them drastically as in the original mix.

Amazingly, there are differently EQ'd digital clones of The Superior Sound Of Elton John 1970-1975 on MCA's Greatest Hits (copyright 1984) and Polydor's Greatest Hits (copyright 1974)! Yes, the world's most common Elton John CDs include the non-hit 1983 remix! If the centered-drums version is the one that you're used to hearing, that's almost certainly due to its inclusion on the Greatest Hits CD (originally on MCA, rereleased on Polydor). Oldies radio likely plays the centered-drums version, also because it turned up on Greatest Hits, which all program directors own.

I'm kinda shocked that I never realized this, until 48 years after the song was a hit.

Others

There's a live version that was released as a single in the UK in 1987. It turns up on the West German compilation Hits On CD Vol. 8 (1987, Mercury).

There's a demo version on MCA's 4-CD To Be Continued (1990).]]> Thu, 10 Jan 2019 22:24:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=50948&title=elton-john-your-song#50948 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45627&title=elton-john-your-song#45627 Author: Fastphilly
Subject: 8574
Posted: 24 May 2016 at 10:17pm

jimct wrote: Welcome to the board, Fastphilly. Anyone who collects old promo 45s is OK in my book! I just wanted to note here that the promo 45 scan for "Tiny Dancer" on 45cat has the listed (3:45) "short version" on one side, and the stock 45 flip, "Razor Face" on the other. Whereas my "Tiny Dancer" promo 45 copy includes short/long versions of the hit side, so two different UNI 55318 promo 45s were pressed up for it back in the day.

Thank you Jimct!!!

My promo copy has "Razor Face" on the flip.]]> Tue, 24 May 2016 22:17:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45627&title=elton-john-your-song#45627 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45622&title=elton-john-your-song#45622 Author: jimct
Subject: 8574
Posted: 24 May 2016 at 6:15pm

Welcome to the board, Fastphilly. Anyone who collects old promo 45s is OK
in my book!

I just wanted to note here that the promo 45 scan for "Tiny Dancer" on 45cat
has the listed (3:45) "short version" on one side, and the stock 45 flip, "Razor
Face" on the other. Whereas my "Tiny Dancer" promo 45 copy includes
short/long versions of the hit side, so two different UNI 55318 promo 45s
were pressed up for it back in the day.

Edited by jimct]]> Tue, 24 May 2016 18:15:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45622&title=elton-john-your-song#45622 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45621&title=elton-john-your-song#45621 Author: Fastphilly
Subject: 8574
Posted: 24 May 2016 at 2:30pm

Yes I am missing a few of his Uni and Congress promos.
I have only "Tiny Dancer", "Honky Cat" and "Rocket Man". I have most
of his MCA promos and none of them contained shorter promo only
edits. First time posting on this site. Love it!!]]> Tue, 24 May 2016 14:30:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45621&title=elton-john-your-song#45621 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45620&title=elton-john-your-song#45620 Author: jimct
Subject: 8574
Posted: 24 May 2016 at 1:16pm

Fastphilly wrote: I have a good many of EJ's promo 45's and the Uni promos I have are all stereo. Though my "Tiny Dancer" does contain a shorter edit that I believe to be promo only. The only mono promo I have is "Crocodile Rock" b/w Elderberry Wine" both sides are mono. Ever stock copy I have seen are mixed in stereo

                                                             
       
You must be missing some of his UNI promo 45s then, Fastphilly, because
although both my U.S. promo 45s for "Border Song" (UNI 55246; BB #92,
8/70) and the earlier U.S. 45 issue for it, (as Congress 6022, in 4/70) both
state and are stereo, "Friends" (UNI 55277) and "Levon" (UNI 55314) are
both in mono. UNI stock 45s for all three songs mentioned in this
paragraph were issued in mono. Also, mono on at least one promo 45
side were included on the non-UNI promos "Lady Samantha" (DJM 70008)
(12/68) & (Congress 6017) (3/70) and "From Denver To L.A." (Viking
1010) (5/70).

And although "Crocodile Rock" (MCA 40000) is the only mono-only promo
45 that I know of on that label, I do also own mono/stereo MCA promo
45s for "Daniel" (MCA 40046), "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" (MCA 40148),
"Step Into Christmas" (MCA 65018), "Bennie And The Jets" (MCA 40198),
and "Philadelphia Freedom" (MCA 40364). I have also pulled/checked all
my other Elton John MCA promo 45s up to and including 1980 (in addition
to the 1975 Polydor PRO-002 promo of "Pinball Wizard"), and they are all
stereo only.

Edited by jimct]]> Tue, 24 May 2016 13:16:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45620&title=elton-john-your-song#45620 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45619&title=elton-john-your-song#45619 Author: Fastphilly
Subject: 8574
Posted: 24 May 2016 at 10:25am

aaronk wrote: John, Mark edited his post above to add that no mono version exists for "Tiny Dancer," even on the promo 45.

I have a good many of EJ's promo 45's and the Uni promos I have are
all stereo. Though my "Tiny Dancer" does contain a shorter edit that I
believe to be promo only. The only mono promo I have is "Crocodile
Rock" b/w Elderberry Wine" both sides are mono. Ever stock copy I
have seen are mixed in stereo]]> Tue, 24 May 2016 10:25:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8574&PID=45619&title=elton-john-your-song#45619