https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 21:49:32 +0000 Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:55:28 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5141 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52121&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52121 Author: 995wlol
Subject: 5141
Posted: 26 June 2019 at 1:55pm

aaronk wrote: In disc production, the plastic disc is the bottom layer, followed by the silver information layer, which is then coated with a lacquer that seals out moisture and air.

Upon close inspection in bright light, all Discovery
Systems discs I own have a visible texture in the
lacquer finish that looks like tiny pin-size marks or
bubbles. It's a shame since some of those promos contain
unique mixes/versions on CD.]]> Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:55:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52121&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52121 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52120&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52120 Author: 995wlol
Subject: 5141
Posted: 26 June 2019 at 1:49pm

aaronk wrote: My copy of "So Emotional" was not pressed by Discovery Systems, but I suppose it's possible some were.

On second thought, I believe I was thinking of the
Madonna "You Can Dance Edits"]]> Wed, 26 Jun 2019 13:49:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52120&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52120 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52119&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52119 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 5141
Posted: 26 June 2019 at 2:59am

aaronk wrote: Good call, Brian! My copy of "Love Will Save The Day" also won't rip. I believe elcoleccionista sent me wav files that do play perfectly if you need them.

He sent them to me as well, LOL!]]> Wed, 26 Jun 2019 02:59:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52119&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52119 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52118&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52118 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5141
Posted: 25 June 2019 at 9:02pm

Many of these issues are not new. Discovery Systems was a CD manufacturer from about 1987 to 1991. The reason they were used often for promos is because the labels didn't have to meet large minimum quantities, and they could turn things around quickly. Unfortunately, they had quality control issues in the manufacturing process that caused the information (aluminum) layer to remain partially unsealed.

In disc production, the plastic disc is the bottom layer, followed by the silver information layer, which is then coated with a lacquer that seals out moisture and air. The label is then silkscreened on top.

When the information layer is exposed to the air, it oxidizes over time and makes the disc either play with errors or become totally unreadable. It's not something that typically happens overnight, so sometimes a disc can "go bad" (i.e. laser rot) many years down the road. In the case of Discovery Systems, not all of their discs are defective, but if I had to guess, I'd say around 30% of the discs I have from them are either going bad or have already become Frisbees.]]> Tue, 25 Jun 2019 21:02:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52118&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52118 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52117&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52117 Author: edtop40
Subject: 5141
Posted: 25 June 2019 at 8:21pm

why are there so many issues with these old promo/cd
singles that are now, just coming to light?]]> Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:21:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52117&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52117 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52116&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52116 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5141
Posted: 25 June 2019 at 8:18pm

My copy of "So Emotional" was not pressed by Discovery Systems, but I suppose it's possible some were.]]> Tue, 25 Jun 2019 20:18:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52116&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52116 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52115&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52115 Author: 995wlol
Subject: 5141
Posted: 25 June 2019 at 8:44am

I don't own it, but pretty sure the Whitney Houston "So
Emotional" promo CD single was also pressed by Discovery
Systems.]]> Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:44:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52115&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52115 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52113&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52113 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5141
Posted: 24 June 2019 at 3:40pm

Good call, Brian! My copy of "Love Will Save The Day" also won't rip. I believe elcoleccionista sent me wav files that do play perfectly if you need them.]]> Mon, 24 Jun 2019 15:40:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52113&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52113 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52112&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52112 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 5141
Posted: 24 June 2019 at 2:01pm

Add Whitney Houston "Love Will Save The Day" (ASCD 9721)
as also being manufactured by Discovery Systems, and
that one won't rip, either (though it used to... it's
something that's happened over the years).

A long time ago I was able to rip the Madonna "You Can
Dance" promo CD using a stand-alone DVD player hooked up
to my old stand-alone Philips CD burner, but I have no
way of knowing if there were any errors... I didn't hear
any. But the DVD burner played through the whole thing
where the CD player wouldn't.]]> Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:01:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52112&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52112 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52111&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52111 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5141
Posted: 24 June 2019 at 12:05pm

I think possibly all copies were pressed by Discovery Systems. I just tried ripping mine, and EAC returned errors for tracks 1 & 3, but it ripped track 2 without any problems. There was only one "suspicious position" error on track 1 and three errors on track 3. Thankfully, these small errors are not audible, so it appears the error correction was able to fix them well enough.

Coincidentally, only a few days ago, I made a list of promo CDs I own that I know for sure are manufactured by Discovery Systems based on what is documented on Discogs. I had planned in the next few days to pull all of them and attempt to rip them. Here's what I know for certain so far (which does not include full-length CDs or TM Century HitDisc/GoldDiscs):

Rhino Records
Monkees "Heart And Soul" (PRCD 1)

Fever Records
Cover Girls "Inside Outside" (no catalog #)
Cover Girls "Promise Me" (no catalog #) (my copy will no longer play at all)

Virgin Records
Millions Like Us "Guaranteed For Life" (PRCD9412)

I.R.S. Records
The Truth "Weapons Of Love" (L33-17302)

Arista Records
Barry Manilow with Kid Creole & The Coconuts "Hey Mambo" (ASCD-9665)
Daryl Hall & John Oates "Everything Your Heart Desires" (ASCD-9685)
Whitney Houston "Love Will Save The Day" (ASCD 9721)

Warner Bros., Reprise, Sire
Madonna "You Can Dance (Single Edits of Album Remixes)" (PRO-CD-2892)
New Order "True Faith" (PRO-CD-2899)
David Lee Roth "Just Like Paradise" (PRO-CD-2920)
Rod Stewart "Lost In You" (PRO-CD-3052)
Good Question "Got A New Love" (PRO-CD-3119)
Siedah Garrett "K.I.S.S.I.N.G." (PRO-CD-3123)
Erasure "Chains Of Love" (PRO-CD-3140)
Book Of Love "Pretty Boys And Pretty Girls" (PRO-CD-3197)
Bullet Boys "Smooth Up" (PRO-CD-3251)
Information Society "Walking Away" (PRO-CD-3253)
R.E.M. "Orange Crush" (PRO-CD-3306)
Karyn White "Superwoman" (PRO-CD-3375)
Bullet Boys "For The Love Of Money" (PRO-CD-3393)
Ice-T "High Rollers" (PRO-CD-3415)
Elvis Costello "Veronica" (PRO-CD-3424)
Eric Clapton "Pretending" (PRO-CD-3789)
Jane Child "Don't Wanna Fall In Love" (PRO-CD-3867)
Faith No More "Epic" (PRO-CD-3913)
Jane's Addiction "Been Caught Stealing" (PRO-CD-4039)
Al B. Sure! "Missunderstanding" (PRO-CD-4423)
Betty Boo "Doin' The Do" (PRO-CD-4450)
Chicago "Chasin' The Wind" (PRO-CD-4602)
Tara Kemp "Hold You Tight" (PRO-CD-4617)
Keith Washington "Kissing You" (PRO-CD-4671)
R.E.M. "Losing My Religion" (PRO-CD-4707)
R.E.M. "Shiny Happy People" (PRO-CD-4888)

As I come across others, I will update this list. Feel free to also post additional titles that I have not yet discovered (no pun intended).

Edited by aaronk]]> Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:05:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5141&PID=52111&title=jane-childdont-wanna-fall-in-love#52111