https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 18:59:23 +0000 Tue, 19 Nov 2024 20:19:07 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1766 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=65428&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#65428 Author: mjb50
Subject: 1766
Posted: 19 November 2024 at 8:19pm

Just to clarify for people searching for the version details (not contradicting anything said previously):

• The common 45 version runs about 3:46, printed as 3:43. It's an edit with a cold open, 3 seconds (8 beats) of rhythm machine in the intro before the sequenced bass synth starts.

• The full-length version, which we are calling the LP version here, runs about 4:20. It is unedited, with a cold open of 6 seconds (16 beats) of rhythm machine. It is called "Album Version" with a printed duration of 4:27 on the US promo 12". On some CD appearances, this version is faded in rather than starting at full volume, and on some CDs it is faded out a second or two early.

• The actual Night and Day album plays the full-length version, but it begins over the fadeout of the previous song ("Target", which has prominent Latin piano), and fades up slowly from a low volume as the other song fades out. Its duration is printed as 4:34, but if you start from the first beat, it actually runs about 4:24, or 4:26 on my vinyl due to slower mastering.

• The UK 12" advertises a "Full Length" version, but it is the Night and Day segued album version, just faded in very quickly right before the bass synth starts. You can hear a bit of the piano from "Target" as it fades in. This ends up running about 4:17, but is printed as 4:34 like on the album. A number of import 45s also have 4:34 printed; for now, I would assume they have this version.



Edited by mjb50]]> Tue, 19 Nov 2024 20:19:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=65428&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#65428 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=39314&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#39314 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 1766
Posted: 05 October 2013 at 5:04am

To 'Crap':

Yes, the 16-beat intro of the promo does start on a downbeat.

Andy]]> Sat, 05 Oct 2013 05:04:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=39314&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#39314 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=39305&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#39305 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 1766
Posted: 03 October 2013 at 7:37pm

Still trying to sort all of this out...

The true LP version on Night And Day tracks over the previous selection, so it's a little tough to figure out a true length for the track. On my CD for Night And Day, the track runs 4:23. It runs 159.2 BPM for the first 12 seconds, 159.8 BPM thereafter, no drift. If you listen with headphones, there's a little bit of buzz on the keyboard notes in the intro. The buzz disappears on the downbeat at 0:18. If I had to guess, I'd say that the intro was spliced together in pieces, and the buzz came from a higher-generation tape source.

The LP version on Stepping Out The Very Best Of (1990) fades in, which seems to be the same fade-in used on Night And Day, but minus the previous track. This version starts on a faint snare (down about -50 dB), and there are 15 beats before the keyboards kick in. It runs 4:23, at 160.0 BPM for the first 7 seconds, 159.9 thereafter, no drift. There's buzz here, too, which disappears on the downbeat between 0:17 and 0:18.

The true 45 edit starts on a full-volume downbeat, with 8 beats before the keyboards kick in. There are a few edits that shorten the keyboard intro and keyboard solo (I didn't check the edit points.)

The 45 version on Virgin/PolyGram/EMI's 2-CD Now 1983 (1993) also runs 3:45, but at 159.2 BPM throughout, also with an edit at 3:04. There's buzz on the keyboard notes during the intro, which disappears at the downbeat at 0:15. The whole track seems to have a boosted high end, with more reverb than the other versions. It's the same kind of uneasy high-end boost that we used to hear from playing back Dolby C NR-reduced cassettes with the noise reduction off. I can't tell if the high end is unnaturally boosted here, or is deliberately reduced on the other discs. (I think this is why I thought it might have been a different mix in an earlier post.)

The 45 version on Rhino's 7-CD Like Omigod (2002) runs 3:45, running at 159.5 BPM throughout. There's an edit at 3:04. I can still hear the buzz that disappears at 0:15, but it's muted quite a bit compared to the Now version. The 45 version sounds excellent on this set.

And then, the CDs that attempt to deal with the LP version:

• Polygram's promo PGD Presents Sound Savers Vol. 1 (1991; digitally exactly 2.6 dB louder than Night And Day, cuts off the 5-second cross-fade from previous song, fades in from 0:05 to 0:08 of N&D)
• swaitek's promo 50-CD set The A List Disc 10 (1994; cuts off drum machine intro completely and starts with keyboards, no NR)
• Time-Life's 2-CD Modern Rock Vol. 1 1982-1983 (1999; digitally exactly 7 dB louder than Night And Day, starts on cold downbeat and cuts off the 5-second cross-fade from previous song)
• Realm's 3-CD Greatest Hits Of The '80s Vol. 3 (2002; starts with 8 beats of drums at full volume, there's an edit at 1:51, mastered way too loud and clips severely)

For the 45 version, go with Like Omigod (2002).

For the LP version, I like Stepping Out The Very Best Of (1990).

Edit: Andrew posted that the promo LP version, which starts at full volume, has 16 beats before the keyboards kick in. That's twice as long as the 8-beat intro on the 45. I assume that the 16-beat intro starts on a downbeat, but can't confirm.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:37:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=39305&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#39305 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=30471&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#30471 Author: abagon
Subject: 1766
Posted: 08 June 2011 at 9:57am

The previous selection "Target" tracks into the introduction of "Steppin' Out" on the vinyl LP "Night And Day."
Although I don't have the "Night And Day" CD. I feel that the CD is the same as the vinyl LP.

--abagon
]]> Wed, 08 Jun 2011 09:57:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=30471&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#30471 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=14218&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#14218 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1766
Posted: 24 January 2008 at 1:34pm

my commercial 45 of joe jackson's "steppin' out" states a run time on the label of 3:43....while this is true the 45 runs slightly slower than the version from the "omigod" box set.....in addition, that cd version has a slightly longer fade out (0:02) than the actual 45..... ]]> Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:34:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=14218&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#14218 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9045&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9045 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 1766
Posted: 26 February 2007 at 4:46pm

To Pat:

The correct CD title is actually Class Reunion '82.

To Andrew:

Thank you for confirming the run time of your promo 12" B-side!]]> Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:46:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9045&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9045 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9042&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9042 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 1766
Posted: 26 February 2007 at 12:23pm

Hey Todd, one more clarifying question -- is the title Class Reunion '82 or Class Reunion 1982?]]> Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:23:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9042&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9042 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9038&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9038 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 1766
Posted: 26 February 2007 at 9:55am

Todd requested actual timing of promo.

Label states 4:27. Actual time 4:21

Full four measure (16 beat) rhythm machine only intro.

Andy]]> Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:55:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9038&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9038 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9031&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9031 Author: edtop40
Subject: 1766
Posted: 25 February 2007 at 10:09pm

I went through my music library and just now realized I actually have the Class Reunion '82 disc! {smacking my head} You know you have too many CDs when you can't even remember what's in your collection!

If you'd like, Pat, I can try and provide you with actual run times and versions for all the tracks on this CD within the next day or so. Let me know.


todd....your starting to sound like me!!!
]]> Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:09:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9031&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9031 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1766&PID=9026&title=joe-jackson-steppin-out#9026 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 1766
Posted: 25 February 2007 at 8:41pm

Here you go, Pat. Sorry to take so long to get back to you with your requested info. My job has been keeping me brutally busy lately!

Here is the track info with actual run times for Top 40 hits on the Class Reunion 1982 CD on Rebound 520494 (I omitted songs that do not appear in the database):

(S) (4:17) Joe Jackson - Steppin' Out (As documented elsewhere in this thread, the intro begins cold at full volume and does not fade in like the true LP version. Andrew Chouffi claims this version is on the B-side of his 12" promo single. Hopefully, Andrew can confirm the actual run time for both sides of his copy.)
(S) (3:28) ABC - The Look of Love (Part 1)
(S) (4:36) 38 Special - Caught Up in You
(S) (5:15) Rainbow - Stone Cold (LP version)
(S) (3:35) Junior - Mama Used to Say
(S) (4:53) Kool & The Gang - Get Down on It (LP version)
(S) (2:38) Soft Cell - Tainted Love (45 version)
(S) (3:51) Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes - Up Where We Belong

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