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Posted: 01 June 2017 at 12:36pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Granted, Anne Murray had the hit with this one, but it's
a 1972 album track that has become popular in recent
years.

Just noticed today the 45 has a listed time of 3:08 and
the album version runs 4:15.

Can the shorter version be recreated?
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Posted: 01 June 2017 at 4:17pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

After all these years of owning the song digitally,
never realized there was a 45 version until now...
Thanks to Yah Shure for the assist.

Using the song from Sittin' In...

Keep 0:00.000 to 1:23.867
Remove from 1:23.867 to 2:18.617
With what you have, fade from 2:54 to 3:06.

Total run time is 3:06.
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Posted: 01 June 2017 at 5:49pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

John, you're forgiven for not knowing "Danny's Song" existed on a 45, given that it was relegated to the "B" side of a low-charter. But unlike the "A" side, they didn't... well, remember how Columbia turned Roger McGuinn on the promo 45 edit of the Byrds' "Chestnut Mare" into Tiny Tim? Both the promo and stock 45s of "Nobody But You" were similarly injected with hearty doses of CBS helium.

But at least with "Chestnut Mare", Columbia didn't mess with the speed of the stock 45, in addition to leaving it unedited. And as an extra bonus, the stock 45 was also a dedicated mono mix.
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Posted: 02 June 2017 at 4:00am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

Well, "Danny's Song" was an A-side at one point. According to my research, a mono/stereo promo 45 of "Danny" existed. A mono/stereo promo 45 of "Nobody But You" as well as a stereo 'Rush Reservice' "Nobody But You (designated A) coupled with "Danny's Song" also surfaced.

I wonder what side Columbia tried to promote first?

Andy

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Posted: 02 June 2017 at 5:32am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

My promo is a white-label version of the commercial copy
and is stereo. "Nobody But You" is designated as the A
side. It is not a reservice.
The record has a date stamp of June 24, 1972 (the station
I worked at in the early 70s date-stamped records when
they were received.
We clearly were not a priority station to Columbia given
that the song debuted on the Hot 100 2 weeks earlier, but
given that "Vahevala" would have just dropped off the
chart when this one debuted, I'd say that NBY was the
initial plug side. Maybe the fact that it only peaked in
the 80s someone made the decision to try and push the B
side, though I couldn't find any evidence supporting
that.
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Posted: 02 June 2017 at 1:55pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

TM Studios lists the Loggins and Messina version of
Danny's Song in their active GoldDisc library so who
knows how it became popular over the years. Maybe
Delilah?
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Posted: 02 June 2017 at 5:37pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Their version became popular thru extensive AOR play in the 70'and 80's...along with a few of their other non-top 40 songs like "Angry Eyes"... From the 80's onward "Danny's Song" also became an AC format regular, and now finally it's in most "oldies" formats. Our current oldies station is mostly 80's but they play a handful of early 70's things and this is one of them.

So I've heard this version a LOT on the radio in the past 3 decades yet I've hardly ever heard Anne Murray's version at all in any format. Too bad. I always liked hers. But she has been wiped from most radio oldies formats by the corporate playlist robots as being "too AC" "too mellow" or "too country" like many other similar artists.   
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Posted: 02 June 2017 at 6:15pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Andy, I see discogs shows a stereo/stereo DJ 45, so it apparently did exist as an "A" side. Might it have been nothing more than an attempt to capitalize on Anne Murray's hit, since it was on the promo label design introduced in 1973 (with the red "Columbia" letters straight across the top), but utilizing the original 1972 catalog number?

Don't ever recall getting a post-'72 promo in at the college station. Is there any evidence of a concurrent 45617 reissue on the 1973 red/orange stock label, rather than the 1972 gray? Or was this one mainly a promotional bump for the Sittin' In album?

[Edit: I see Mark beat me to this:]

John, part of the problem with Loggins & Messina was that Sittin' In didn't break the act wide open, like their second album did. Its three singles either didn't or barely got off the ground; however, the album contained several tracks that would age well and go on to become standards through persistent FM airplay.

Take "House At Pooh Corner": the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band nearly cracked the top 50 with it, almost a year before Sittin' In was released, but when L&M's slowed-down version was issued as a single in the Fall of '72, it didn't chart anywhere. Yet L&M's is the version remembered today, thanks to persistent FM airplay, while the NGDB's original was forgotten as soon as it dropped off the Hot 100. Pooh Corner's B-side, "Peace Of Mind," was the last part of the "Trilogy" ending side one, which was no FM airplay slouch, either.

And don't forget Lynn Anderson's 1972 #4 country cover of "Listen To A Country Song."

Delilah? Why, why, why?

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Posted: 05 June 2017 at 7:58am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To everybody:

Thanks for the information!

In particular, I never thought of the possibility that "Danny's Song" was issued as an A-side to give programmers an option to play the original version when Anne Murray was starting to get airplay. I seem to recall it was sometimes considered hip in the 70s to play the singer/songwriter's original when a burgeoning hit cover version was being played on Top-40 radio ("Into The Mystic" comes to mind).

Anybody have any other examples of the above??

Andy
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Posted: 05 June 2017 at 10:33am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Some stations must have played it initially at the time
Ann Murray's version was a hit.

Came across an aircheck just yesterday of Jack Armstrong
on 13Q in Pittsburgh from 1973, (then, WJAS AM/FM), and
he played the Loggins and Messina version.
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Posted: 05 June 2017 at 5:08pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94

There was an aircheck on the web of WLS-AM/Chicago playing it as an oldie in 1984, but I think it was taken down.

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