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Posted: 06 April 2006 at 10:01am | IP Logged Quote eric_a

Not sure if this is already in the book, but I learned something last night. I just picked up the deluxe Rhino 2-CD reissue of Curtis Mayfield's SUPERFLY soundrack.

I was excited that it came with the single edits of "Superfly" and "Freddie's Dead", but listening to them last night, I realized that they were truly 45 mixes, in MONO! So I set about cutting the stereo album versions to match the single for airplay.

"Superfly" is easy, you just fade around 3:10.

The cuts for "Freddie's Dead" are surprisingly challenging, actually starting in the middle of the record, so I figured I'd pass along my notes. Using the ~5:25 album cut, piece together these five segments to make the ~3:10 version.

2:42-2:58
0:30-0:46
1:07-2:05
2:15-3:24
4:06-4:44 (fade at end)


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Posted: 06 April 2006 at 10:07am | IP Logged Quote sriv94

FYI, the stereo 45 fade of "Superfly" is available on one of the Rhino Soul Hits of the 70s CDs. Thanks for the tip on creating a stereo 45 version of "Freddie's Dead." I'm assuming there never was a stereo 45 of that--would that be correct?

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Posted: 07 April 2006 at 1:18am | IP Logged Quote jimct

The 1972 Promo 45 of "Freddie's Dead" has the stereo version of the 45 mix. Don't think Rhino knows this, or they might've looked around for it before settling for the mono v. My copy was stolen, along with 100 other rarities, from my radio station lockup in 1986. It has been my #1 want to re-obtain ever since, and has proven incredibly elusive - I've re-acquired ALL 99 of the others. Good luck with the re-creation - they can sound spectacular when done correctly.

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Posted: 07 April 2006 at 8:48am | IP Logged Quote Grant

As usual, what probably happened in 1972 is that there were more than one 45 master. One was sent to one pressing plant, another master to another plant. Or, one was supposed to be a promo issue.
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Posted: 07 April 2006 at 8:07pm | IP Logged Quote Gary Mack

I have the stereo/mono promo 45 and the stereo mix runs exactly 3:15. It was mastered at Bell Sound, which means the single mix tape may be in the dumpster. Sorry, Jimct, keep looking - other copies must be out there somewhere.

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Posted: 08 April 2006 at 10:07pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a

Not to toot my own horn, but my version came out pretty seamless. I can send the mp3 if you want. Send me a private message here and i'll email it- EA
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Posted: 22 December 2008 at 5:18pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Reviving an old one, just got in a stereo/mono promo 45 for this. Listed and actual time is 3:15, as Gary Mack mentioned. Deadwax is CRS 1975 A.

Thanks for the heads up, everyone, on where I could find the stereo 45 mix of this song.
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Posted: 22 December 2008 at 10:21pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

Is the stereo promo 45 a different MIX than the album mix? (I know it's an out-of-sequence edit.)

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Posted: 22 December 2008 at 10:38pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Andy:

I thought I read on the Steve Hoffman forum it was a different mix. I could be wrong, though. I'll let you listen for yourself...
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Discogs has a listing for a "Superfly/Freddie's Dead" 45 (Curtom 88-003) that has a runtime of 3:43 for "Freddie's Dead". Anyone know anything about this 45 release? If it's really from 1972 then that means the 'neither' version is actually a longer 45 version.
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Jollom, I have it. It was released many years after the fact. I think the "then-
indie" Curtom 88-003 stock # closely jives with my memory that "88" was
the year (1988) that we first got that 45 issue of it into the station. It was a
100% "neither" version, and is to be totally disregarded, as the 3:43
"Freddie's Dead" version found on it had/has nothing to do with the correct,
original 45 edit found on its 1972 Curtom/Buddah 45 release....
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Posted: 17 August 2013 at 6:17am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

jimct wrote:
Jollom, I have it. It was released many
years after the fact. I think the "then-
indie" Curtom 88-003 stock # closely jives with my memory
that "88" was
the year (1988) that we first got that 45 issue of it
into the station. It was a
100% "neither" version, and is to be totally disregarded,
as the 3:43
"Freddie's Dead" version found on it had/has nothing to
do with the correct,
original 45 edit found on its 1972 Curtom/Buddah 45
release....


I have that one too...as I recall it's 2-track stereo
with most of the instrumentation on one side and vocals
on the other.

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Posted: 17 August 2013 at 4:21pm | IP Logged Quote joliom

It doesn't surprise me that it's a reissue 45 since the catalog number wasn't listed in my Goldmine Guide at all.
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