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edtop40
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Posted: 10 February 2006 at 6:51pm \| IP Logged

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you mention in the database that the 45 runs 3:58 and the lp version runs 3:51, but you don't list which cd contain which version.......does the billboard top hits:1982 contain the cotrrect 45 version.......

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Posted: 11 February 2006 at 2:12am \| IP Logged

Ed:

I can do an A/B comparison to be sure, but it appears the Billboard Top Hits: 1982 CD does contain the correct 45 length of "Up Where We Belong".

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Posted: 11 February 2006 at 5:55am \| IP Logged

the cd "the island story" contains the correct 3:55 single version...

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Posted: 11 February 2006 at 10:19am \| IP Logged

Ed:

Are you saying the correct 45 length is actually 3:55? I consulted you about this single a couple months ago and thought you reported the vinyl 45 run time was 3:58.

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Posted: 25 July 2008 at 7:10pm \| IP Logged

According to the database, the 45 length of Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes' "Up Where We Belong" is 3:56. It should probably also be noted that the record label on commercial 45 copies incorrectly states the run time at 4:00.

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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 12:34pm \| IP Logged

Does your copy of this song, any copy, have a glitch on the first word sung, "Who" ?

I also have a couple with noise reduction and they tried to fix the glitch but it's still there.

Going to possibly try iTunes or Amazon to see if there's a glitch free version.

Thanks.

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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 2:58pm \| IP Logged

What exactly does the glitch sound like? I'm listening to a copy on my PC where there is some low frequency noise during that word, almost as if the microphone was picking up "wind," for lack of a better description.

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Posted: 19 December 2010 at 4:29pm \| IP Logged

mainrhythm wrote:

Is your source for this song the Billboard Top Hits 1982 CD? Because I do hear a prominent "tick" on the first "Who" and a smaller anomaly 2 words later on "what". However, those anomalies are not present on several other CDs that I checked: Cosmopolitan Vol. 2, Mystic Music Presents Cool Rock, Class Reunion 1982.

Could either be a problem with the tape source used for the Billboard CD, or possibly a mastering or pressing error. If it was a problem with the digital transfer on the Billboard CD, then I would expect that glitch to appear on other CDs, since the Rhino Billboard series has been a frequently used source for other CDs.

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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 9:19am \| IP Logged

My copies of "The Envelope Please... Academy Award Winning Songs 1934-1993" & "Billboard Top Hits 1982" both contain the tick

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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 9:56am \| IP Logged

My copy from Sounds Of The Eighties 1982 has the glitch on the word 'who' as well.

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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 10:01am \| IP Logged

I listened to a few samples of the song running 3:51 or so in Rhapsody. None of them have the glitch or tick. Looks like some surgery needed via Audition.

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Posted: 22 December 2010 at 8:26pm \| IP Logged

The version on Warner Special Products' 3-CD Secret Love (1987) has the glitch at 0:14 on the word "who". It also sounds like it's taken from a higher-generation tape source than most of the others.

There's a differently-EQ'd digital clone of Secret Love on Cema's 2-CD Cool Rock (1995), and the same analog transfer is used for Warner Special Products' 2-CD Night Songs. All have the glitch.

The version on The Island Story (1987) has no hint of a glitch at "who", but it fades earlier than Secret Love and has a harsh, midrange-heavy EQ. I dislike The Island Story for a number of reasons, and avoid using it if I can.

The version on Cosmopolitan Vol. 2 seems to use the same tape source as The Island Story, but with a much more forgiving EQ. The fade is in the same place as Story, and there's no glitch. Sound quality is better than the above two, but still isn't my first choice.

The analog transfer done by Bill Inglot on Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1982 (1992) sounds better than all that have come before it, and it runs out to the proper length (same as Secret Love). It also has the glitch on "who".

There are many digital clones of Billboard Top Hits 1982, including Warner Special Products' 2-CD Body Talk (1994; 0.1 dB quieter), Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties 1982 (1994; different EQ), Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 4 Together Forever (1996; 1.706 dB quieter) and Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 31 Movie Hits Of The '80s (1996; different EQ).

All of the above have the glitch on "who", except the 1994 Body Talk and Movie discs, where it's fixed by cutting the glitch out (see below), so that the two don't digitally cancel against the Rhino disc until the 0:14 mark.

The 2-CD UK set Now 1983 (1993) has no glitch, but fades early - even earlier than The Island Story. Sound quality is quite nice, despite the early fade, almost as good as from the Rhino disc. The A List (1994) sounds like it originally had the glitch, but was cleaned up. It also appears to fade a bit early, and may possibly have noise reduction. (Taken from vinyl?) None of the other CDs have any NR.

My first choice for sound is the Rhino disc, despite the glitch.

FYI - you can easily remove the glitch by taking out about 2 cycles of Ms. Warnes's vocals. If you're comfortable with editing tools, you can repeat the correction of the two Time-Life discs above, which cut out exactly 198 samples from the Rhino version.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 18 March 2013 at 8:07pm

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Posted: 23 December 2010 at 2:22pm \| IP Logged

I have the Joe Cocker "Anthology" 2-CD set and I'm not hearing anything strange on the words "who" or "what".

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Posted: 24 December 2010 at 12:13pm \| IP Logged

Thanks everyone and extra thanks to Ron for all the info!

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Posted: 27 December 2010 at 9:36pm \| IP Logged

Thanks for calling attention to this, guys. I remember noticing that distracting "popping" noise the very first time I ever listened to the song on the Secret Love compilation back in 1987!

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Posted: 13 December 2013 at 12:03pm \| IP Logged

From the Collecting 1982 on compilations thread...

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Just checked all the copies I have of the song.

These have the glitch at 0:14 -

Warner Special Products' 3-CD Secret Love (1987)
Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1982 (1992)
Warner Special Products' 2-CD Night Songs (1994)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 5 1982 (1994)
Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 4 Together Forever (1996)

These do not have the glitch at 0:14 -

Island's 2-CD Island Story (1987)
Time-Life's 4-CD Great Love Songs Of The 70's And 80's Vol. 4 Endless Love (1991)
Sandstone's Cosmopolitan Vol. 2 (1992)
EMI PolyGram Virgin UK's 2-CD Now 1983 (1993)
swaitek's 50-CD A List Disc 11 (1994)
Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk (1994)
Cema's 2-CD Cool Rock (1995)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 31 Movie Hits Of The '80s (1996)
Joe Cocker's Best Of
Joe Cocker's Ultimate Collection

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