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Posted: 20 July 2011 at 7:36pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial 45 for the rod stewart song "tonight i'm yours (don't hurt me)" issued as warner 49886 states the run time on the label as 3:54 and does indeed run that length and is an edit of the full length 4:10 cd/lp version...this 45 run time s/b added to the db....thanks paul for the edit you did for me years ago....

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Posted: 20 July 2011 at 10:18pm | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton

Where are the edits? I've only EVER heard the LP version, even years ago on the Dick Clark National Music Survey (that was 1982...lol)


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Posted: 21 July 2011 at 4:07pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta

Ok, so this is my first post of describing what I think to be the edit points between the 45 and the LP version. The veterans who are pros at this, please be kind.....LOL.

I didn't have a 45 on hand so I based my comparison off of the video that I grabbed off of Youtube.

There is an extra chorus between approx the 2:57 and 3:09 mark that is not included in the video that I removed and that seems to do it. However, after the cut, this version runs approx 3:57 which is :03 longer than what edtop40 noted above. It is hard to tell if the video just faded a bit early or if the 45 does the same.

I did also notice that the video version was much faster than the version that I worked with which came from "Rod Stewart Encore: Best of Vol. 2" Not sure if the 45 is faster or if the transfer onto youtube or the source that it came from was much faster.

I would be more than happy to share the edit with anyone but again, my first go around at this so I won't swear by my edit.

-Jeff

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Posted: 21 July 2011 at 9:39pm | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton

Listening to the video right now....lol.

It is a touch fast, but that may be a bad VHS transfer. But still viewing....lol. Actually looking at the video from different YouTube poster, and the pitch is still faster.

Oh there we go. At about 2:57, on the second "Don't Hurt Me". It deletes until about 3:07. Never caught that one before. But the rest is intact. Well thanks for the help on that one.




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Posted: 04 November 2013 at 8:21pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

Just to clarify the edit points on the 45:

Using Storyteller (1989) as the source (LP
version, runs 4:10), remove the 32 beats from 2:55.8 (is
between beats, after the snare, on the syllable for the
word "don't") to 3:07.9. Keep everything else.

Your mixdown will run 3:58, with a single edit at 2:55.8.

[opinion]... but you'll never actually want to hear this
song. I know a program director of a small-market FM
station that I can pick up in the car. They play plenty
of '80s-era pop stuff, which suits me well. At one
point, I begged him to please pull all the Rod Stewart
from the playlist, because nothing else from that time
frame makes me lunge for the preset buttons faster than
'80s-era Rod Stewart. To any fellow '80s-era
programmers, I would advise: More .38 Special, Less Rod
Stewart.[/opinion]

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reminds me that we are actually human and not music robots.[/fact]

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Posted: 05 November 2013 at 7:34am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

crapfromthepast wrote:

[opinion]I begged him to please pull all the Rod Stewart
from the playlist, because nothing else from that time
frame makes me lunge for the preset buttons faster than
'80s-era Rod Stewart. To any fellow '80s-era
programmers, I would advise: More .38 Special, Less Rod
Stewart.[/opinion]
aaronk wrote:
[fact]I enjoy
seeing an occasional opinion posted on the board. It
reminds me that we are actually human and not music
robots.[/fact]


I dunno...I don't mind his 80s hits, sure beats hearing
"Maggie May" again. 38 Special is ok too, though a bit
overplayed on classic rock.
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Posted: 05 November 2013 at 8:37am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I didn't mind "Young Turks" - I kinda liked Rod's
dabbling with the drum machine/new wave sound. But
"Tonight I'm Yours" was basically the same arrangement,
minus a well-written song. I'd lump it into the same
category as Survivor's "American Heartbeat".

My old cover band used to play "Hold On Loosely". During
a rehearsal, the guitarist played the first three notes
while he was tuning, and the rest of us just fell in
behind him - turns out we all knew the song backwards and
forwards. The non-hits from the early '80s .38 Special
catalog are especially good - check out "You Keep Running
Away", which was top 10 at rock radio, and dented the
bottom of the top 40 in 1982.

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Posted: 05 November 2013 at 7:36pm | IP Logged Quote Roscoe

crapfromthepast wrote:
I didn't mind "Young Turks" - I
kinda liked Rod's
dabbling with the drum machine/new wave sound. But
"Tonight I'm Yours" was basically the same arrangement,
minus a well-written song. I'd lump it into the same
category as Survivor's "American Heartbeat".


Yes, "Young Turks" was probably the best of Rod's 80s
stuff, at least until "Downtown Train" at the very end of
1989 (and not counting his guest vocal on Jeff Beck's
"People Get Ready"). He was bashed critically for most
of the decade, not undeservedly with cheesy singles like
"Infatuation". However, I do admit to having a soft spot
for one of his universally reviled hits (even Stewart
himself has admitted it to be garbage): "Love Touch". I
can't dispute the criticisms leveled at this song, but I
thought it had a pretty good hook.
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Posted: 05 November 2013 at 10:05pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

"Love Touch" was a Holly Knight song, and was basically a
preview for her new band, Device. "Hanging On A Heart
Attack" was basically the same arrangement as "Love Touch",
but a far better record.

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Posted: 06 August 2017 at 9:46pm | IP Logged Quote NightAire

FOR CLARIFICATION:

Ron's edit point seems to suggest the edit is on the first "don't" while Jody's says the second.

Can we tell which it actually is?

Also, does it need to be faded early to get to 3:54?

Edited by NightAire on 06 August 2017 at 9:50pm


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