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I have a contact at Sony and pitched him the idea of releasing several artist Playlist CDs (and other series like that one) that would contain single mixes and songs never released on CD. Unfortunately, Business Affairs isn't interested in ANY of this, even though my contact thinks I presented some great ideas. So then today I suggested releasing digital singles of single mixes that have never been released on CD anywhere. He thought that idea had lots of potential and will be forwarding it on to the powers that be. I'm giving him a list of suggestions but before I do, I thought I'd reach out to all you guys - if there are any Sony/BMG singles that have single mixes never released anywhere in the world on CD, and you'd like to see digital releases that come right off the master tapes, please indicate so here and I'll put together a list. If you have the following info, please include the catalog # and the tape # as listed on the 45. Also, please don't include singles that can just be edited from their album versions. I'm pitching him on the idea of single MIXES that have not come out. My list won't be limited to top 40 hits, but obviously a big artist with a non-top 40 hit would be more appealing than a lesser-known artist with a non-top 40 hit.
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Barry Manilow's "It's A Miracle" I think would qualify. The LP version is on CD, as is an underdub of the LP version (much more common). There is one CD with the 45 mix, but needs two edits to correctly create the 45 version (that CD is out of print, though).
AS-0108 is the catalog number. Runout etching is 2094-S K-9424 1 (not sure whether that's the tape number or not).
Edited by sriv94 on 18 July 2011 at 7:18pm
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So the commercial 45 single versions of "Keeping The Faith," "Sometimes A Fantasy," and "Movin' Out(Anthony's Song)" might be what you're needing? Also, Loggins & Messina's "Thinking Of You."
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Yes, Santi, I was thinking of those specific 3 Billy Joel songs. L&M - good idea, too. Can you provide catalog #'s and tape #'s for each?
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Oh and also can someone please include the info for the 12" version of "Keeping the Faith", since that isn't on CD either?
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The fact that the Billy Joel songs in question haven't been released up to this point, if an artist, such as Billy Joel, objects to their release, would that halt a project like this?
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Eddie Money - Two Tickets To Paradise
might be nice to see that see the digital light of day.
(and i was gonna mention "Sometimes A Fantasy" i see that's covered!)
Bruce Hornsby - Every Little Kiss
Jefferson Starship - No Way Out
John Denver - Sweet Surrender (i was just talkin' about this one with some friends...the 45 is neither the studio recording nor the live take, it is a special mix for the 45, using some elements of the live version, but remixed, with extra overdubs.)
aren't there a few Hall & Oates 45 mixes? Not sure....
Hmm. For Sony/BMG this could be quite a list.
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Sly and the Family Stone - Everyday People
What are some of the labels that would be involved?
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Two Tickets To Paradise was released on the Playlist: Best Of Eddie Money CD, so that one is available. I think the Playlist series also knocked out the remaining Hall & Oates songs that were hard to find, too, at least in terms of special mixes. Every Little Kiss is a great suggestion!
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Indy500 wrote:
Sly and the Family Stone - Everyday People
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Sony
Columbia
Epic
Legacy
Red
BMG
RCA
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Arista
LaFace
So So Def
Jive
Zomba
Probably others too
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One other Billy Joel song that would qualify would be "The Entertainer" (45 is not only an edit, but has steel guitar overdubs while the LP doesn't). Columbia 3-10064 / ZSS159590
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Here are some ideas in addition to the ones above:
A Flock Of Seagulls - Space Age Love Song
Barbra Streisand - The Way We Were
Samantha Fox - Naughty Girls (Need Love Too)
Billy Joel - The Entertainer
Daryl Hall - Dreamtime (actually the 45 is just a longer version of the LP mix, but still almost impossible to find)
Hall & Oates - Possession Obession
Earth, Wind & Fire - Fall In Love With Me
Journey - Suzanne
Loverboy - This Could Be The Night
Simon & Garfunkel - all those unique mono 45 version (highly unlikely to happen I realize)
Boston - Peace Of Mind
Also, another big vote for John Denver's "Sweet Surrender". It's so hard finding a 45 to needledrop that isn't marred by excessive groove noise, particularly bad during the very quiet opening passages. Poor quality RCA vinyl was a real problem for 45s around that time.
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MMathews wrote:
Jefferson Starship - No Way Out
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Hmm, according to Pat's database the 45 and LP are the same. Do you know something we don't know, Mark? :)
Also, quite a few Simon & Garfunkel 45s are different in mix from their LP counterparts. Notably:
The Sounds Of Silence (Columbia #4-43396)
Mrs. Robinson (Columbia #4-44511)
I Am A Rock (Columbia #4-43617)
Cecilia (Columbia #4-45133)
Don't have the actual 45s, so I can't provide tape numbers/runout groove numbers.
EDIT: Great minds think alike on S&G. :)
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Eddie Money - Baby Hold On
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eriejwg wrote:
| The fact that the Billy Joel songs in question haven't been released up to this point, if an artist, such as Billy Joel, objects to their release, would that halt a project like this? |
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Yes, if Billy Joel has a clause in his contract that allows him to decide what versions get released on CD or digitally, and IF he stopped these versions coming out on purpose, then he won't let them come out digitally either. But no one really knows if that's the case. Even so, there are so many other good ones for this project, if it should see the light of day, that is.
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It would also be great to get the big 60s hits from RCA artists in their original mono 45 mixes, like the ones from the superb Gold Standard 45 reissue series. Neil Sedaka and Sam Cooke would be prime candidates. In many cases, those 45 mixes are far superior to the stereo LP versions. And the "Good Times" 45 sounds like a unique mix to me.
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Unless they're improper edits, this 45 is fairly easy to find on CD (there are 16 entries in the database where the 45 version is available).
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Chase -- Get it On EPIC
All those Chicago mono 45 mixes on Columbia including Beginnings
Mark Lindsay -- Arizona mono 45 on Columbia
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eriejwg wrote:
The fact that the Billy Joel songs in
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I'd think so, especially for an artist who's still
currently signed, and even moreso for one of Columbia's "5
B's". For the same reason, I don't think we'll see "The
Way We Were."
Hollywood Reporter on
Columbia's 5 B's
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Nonetheless, I will suggest "THE WAY WE WERE" again, and add the catalog and tape numbers: Columbia 4-45944 / ZSS 158863
If you want to tell your contact, Gordon, the entire first and last verses use a different vocal take than on the "Way We Were" album version, and the single version has never, ever been issued on CD anywhere in the world.
Also, the mono single versions for this double-sided hit:
Carole King "I Feel The Earth Move" ODE-66015 /66031 and "It's Too Late" ODE-66015 / 66032
I'll try to think of some others.
And has your friend ever mentioned lossless?
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