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Although not a top 40 hit, it's one of those classic '80s songs that has been getting airplay for many years. Back in the mid-'90s, a promo CD of "Bizarre Love Triangle" was put out to coincide with the Best Of compilation release. Our station started playing this song quite regularly at that point, using the "Single Remix" from that promo CD.
If my memory is correct, the promo CD "Single Remix" was the same version as the 1986 US 12" (side B, cut 2), running 3:45. But, there was also a 7" single released that has a printed time of 3:36. Does anyone know if that time is a misprint, or is it a different version on the 1986 7" single?
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My copy from TM Century starts with the drums and runs 3:22. Though no indication is given, would this be a radio edit?
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The 1986 45 runs 3:36 - the intro runs :17 and has a cold ending.
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Hmm, well the promo CD has a :25 intro, so there's definitely a difference. Chuck, are you familiar with the version on that promo, and if so, is it even the same mix?
John, I have it on a TM disc, too, and I have no idea where that edit comes from. It's the same mix as what's on the promo CD, but they chopped several seconds off the intro and faded it. Definitely not the same as the 45 or the 12". The promo CD starts with just a synthesizer (no drums) and also ends cold. I'm pretty sure it was identical to the 12" I used to have, but I got rid of the vinyl quite a while ago.
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Thanks to Chuck, I was able to hear the original 1986 7" version. It's the same mix as the 1995 promo CD, but it's an edited version---an out-of-sequence edit!
John, the TM edit is either a promo-only version or simply a butchered attempt at getting the correct single version. The first 2:35 is all correct, including a couple out-of-sequence edits. After that, the official 7" version has another out-of-sequence edit. On the TM version, it just follows the regular "Single Remix" from the promo CD, yet for some reason they faded it before the cold ending. Again, maybe it was like this on a promo 7" single. Anyone know?
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Have seen a pictures of a U.S. promo cd single and U.S. promo 45. Listed time on the promo CD is 3:44, listed time on the promo 45 is 3:36.
Not sure which was issued first.
**EDITED TO ADD** - The promo CD is from 1995, the promo 45 is from 1986. As was mentioned above.
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Well, it appears that the TM disc is some other edit of unknown origin. The soundtrack to "Threesome" has a 3:23 version on it, according to allmusic.com. Maybe that is where this edit comes from.
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Does anybody have a CD source for the 1986 17-second intro, 3:36 length, cold ending 7" 45 RPM single version? I seem to have every OTHER possible edit / mix / remix / extended version, but I haven't located an original '86 mix yet.
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Bumping this old thread up to see if anyone can help out
with where to find the original 1986 7" version.
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I'd be interested too.
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I will shoot this out in a little bit to anyone who would like a copy. I
created the edit based on Chuck's 45 dub.
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Which version appears on US (the best of) NewOrder compilation?
It runs 3:50 but is not the "single remix" on the CD single (both
commercial and promo) that runs 3:43. It may be the same mix (my
ears are not that good) but the ending is definitely different. The
version on the single ends cold while the one on the album has a
solo keyboard sequence that fades out. The latter is what I always
heard on the radio back in '95. Both state they were remixed by
Shep Pettibone. Thanks!
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After some extensive research I have come to the conclusion that
the version on the best of comp is a new mix. All other songs that
were remixed had a "94" or "95" after the title except this one.
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I hadn't heard the Best Of New Order CD in many years, and within the first few seconds of listening to "Bizarre Love Triangle," I could immediately tell that it's a new mix. It's more similar to the LP mix than the single mix. To summarize:
- Album Version from 1994 CD single runs 4:20; vocal starts at 0:08; song ends with a low synth drone and very faint twinkle keyboard. I presume this is the same as the 1986 LP version.
- Single Remix from 1994 CD single runs 3:44; vocal starts at 0:25; song ends cold with lone synth stab (no low synth drone or twinkle keyboard). I'm 99% sure this is the same non-described version found on Side B of the 1986 12" single.
- 7" edit of Single Remix from 1986 runs 3:36; vocal starts at 0:17; no opening synth; song ends cold with lone synth stab (no low synth drone or twinkle keyboard). This is the official US single version and is unavailable on any CDs to my knowledge.
- 1995 Best Of mix runs 3:51; vocal starts at 0:18; no opening synth; song ends with twinkle keyboard fading out
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Thanks Aaron. But the real question is which one is your favorite?
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My old top 40 station played the Single Remix from the 1995 promo CD
single (same version as on the 1986 12" single). That's the version I
heard most often, so I'm a bit partial to that one.
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I was always partial to the '94 version...I guess because that is the
version my local radio station played all the time in 1994. It also
allowed me to rediscover New Order. Odd that they would play
track 2 off of the 1994 promo cd single (listed album version 3:52).
My only guess is that they did switch from the Shep Pettibone remix
edit of "True Faith" to "True Faith 94" once the best of comp was
released. Maybe they wanted to stick with current 1994 mixes. I
dug a little deeper and discovered that the UK release of (The Best
Of) NewOrder does in fact label it "Bizarre Love Triangle-94"
whereas the US release does not.
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Bizarre Love Triangle '94 Re-recorded and re-produced. Utter rubbish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9RrJElX09o
Edited by Loveland on 19 April 2020 at 1:23pm
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You bring up an interesting point, and I believe Qwest re-released and re-promoted the song at two separate times. I honestly do not know the release date of the US maxi CD single, but Discogs has it listed as 1994. Perhaps this CD single is what you're referring to about competing with Frente's cover.
The promo CD single wasn't issued until the summer of 1995, though, which was a full year after Frente's cover peaked at #49 the previous summer. PRO-CD-7587 specifically says that the Album Version is "from the Qwest/Warner Bros. album (the best of) New Order," and it does contain the new 1994 remix. Did the Frente cover renew interest in the song and in New Order, which prompted the label to put out all new mixes of these songs? From what I can tell, the compilation came out in the UK at the end of 1994 and followed in the US in the spring of 1995.
The 1986 single version is, without question, the "Edit" that appears on the 7" single. I'd say the 1986 "Album Version" was the single version in 1994, as it is the lead track of the 5-track US maxi CD. Depending on which station you heard it on in 1995, the "Single Remix" (track 5 on the 1994 maxi CD) could also be considered a "hit version," as it is the lead track of the promo CD and most certainly received airplay that year.
Edited by aaronk on 03 September 2019 at 11:49am
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Single Remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRAk8hrtB3k
Edited by Loveland on 19 April 2020 at 1:15pm
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