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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 12:40pm | IP Logged Quote abagon
There is a male voice "oh no" at 2:24 in the right channel on "Billie Jean" of the U.S. commercial 45. Although my vinyl LP "Thriller" is a Japanese pressing. This voice on the vinyl LP is very low. It's extreme. I couldn't hear it clearly.
Is the U.S. "Thriller" vinyl LP the same as the Japan LP?

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On the US pressing of the CD, the "oh no" is loud and clear. I'm not sure about the vinyl LP.
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Posted: 27 September 2010 at 6:33pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Bumping this back up, because we never got a clear answer for abagon. He emailed me dubs of the US 45 and Japanese LP. The "oh no" at 2:24 is definitely missing from the Japan LP. You can hear it bleeding through just barely, but it was deliberately removed from the mix. Is the US pressing like this?
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Posted: 27 September 2010 at 7:38pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
i don't have the "thriller" cd to help out on this one.....

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I have the CD; it's the vinyl LP in question.
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Posted: 27 September 2010 at 11:18pm | IP Logged Quote Steve Sharp
If no one else can help, give me some time to dig out my US vinyl album, and I'll have a listen.
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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 12:45am | IP Logged Quote mainrhythm
On both copies of my Thriller USA vinyl, you can hear it loud and clear.
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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 8:34am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Mainrhythm, thanks for digging out your vinyl to check. It appears the Japanese pressing, for whatever reason, has a unique version.
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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 9:51am | IP Logged Quote abagon
mainrhythm, Thank you very much for checking the vinyl LP.
aaronk, Thank you very much for being interested in the missing "oh no" version.

For all the message board members,
Please listen to the missing "oh no" version on the You Tube. Click the following links, please.

1/at 2:25

2/at 2:26

3/at 2:22

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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 10:31am | IP Logged Quote mainrhythm
All of my versions on CD have the loud & clear "Oh No" except for one on a Mobile Beat compilation produced by TM Century.

However, my TM Century GoldDisc is still the "Oh No" version.
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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 1:41pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
This is really interesting! It was mentioned in another thread that both Off the Wall and Bad had more than one pressing on vinyl with some of the mixes swapped. Perhaps some vinyl US pressings of Thriller are missing the "oh no." Are there any other differences that you noticed, abagon?

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Quincy Jones has gone on record (no pun) saying that every
single tiny, incidental vocal and sound was intentional, no
matter how minuscule. he calls it 'ear candy".

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Posted: 29 September 2010 at 9:29am | IP Logged Quote abagon
aaronk wrote:
This is really interesting! It was mentioned in another thread that both Off the Wall and Bad had more than one pressing on vinyl with some of the mixes swapped. Perhaps some vinyl US pressings of Thriller are missing the "oh no." Are there any other differences that you noticed, abagon?


I compared the commercial 45 with the Japan@LP "Thriller" again. But there is not another difference.

Concerning "the mixes swapped." When I have a free time. I intend to compare the Japan vinyl with the Michael's CDs in the other top 40 hits from the LP "Thriller."

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The first Japanese pressing of the CD (35.8P-11) matches the Japanese vinyl and doesn't have the "oh no" ad lib. The Dangerous
Tour souvenir CD from Japan also has this version.

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Posted: 19 October 2010 at 12:28pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Really? Hmm...
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Posted: 19 October 2010 at 12:44pm | IP Logged Quote Nick2341
If anyone would like a CD rip, let me know.

Other differences I've noticed: The drums seem to have less reverb on them,
and If you listen to the choruses and towards the end, the synth strings in
the background are also lower in this version.

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Posted: 21 October 2010 at 2:11am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Hmm... According to Wikipedia, the "Thriller" album was released 11/30/82. Also according to Wikipedia, "Billie Jean" the single was released 1/2/83. How much ya wanna bet me the version with the barely audible "oh no" (which Nick kindly sent me) is the original, first-pressing album version?
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I'm with you on that one.
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Posted: 22 October 2010 at 5:06pm | IP Logged Quote waldo
Nick2341 wrote:
The first Japanese pressing of the CD (35.8P-11) matches the Japanese vinyl and doesn't have the "oh no" ad lib. The Dangerous
Tour souvenir CD from Japan also has this version.


wow! thanks for noticing this little anomaly guys. i love discovering stuff like this. and for once i don't need to collect another CD to get this oddity as i have that original Japan pressing. i wonder why it's different on the Japan LP.



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Posted: 16 May 2012 at 11:14am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Okay, can everybody please check their U.S. 45s of "Billie Jean"? Someone has contacted me with info that at least some foreign 45s (including the Canadian issue) use the original album version with the (almost) non-existent "oh no" at 2:24. These are on YouTube, so I heard them myself.

So now I'm wondering if any of the US pressings used the "no oh-no" version. Please post your findings here.
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