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Since both the 1963 (BB Peak: #2) and 1966 (BB Peak: #16) Dot 45 hit releases for the same original 45 recording have different stock # info, etc, I'll include all the info for both 45 releases here. As I work my way backwards researching the 1960's, I will later add my 1963 "Wipe Out" hit 45 details to this post, when I reach that year. For now, my 1966 commercial 45 (confirmed as Dot 144, is styrene, with machine-stamped deadwax of "18041-2" ("18042-2" is crossed out just to the right)) has a listed time of (2:12), but an actual time of (2:16). I will confirm this later, but at first glance, based on the current database CDs/notations for this song, the 1963 45 timings appear to be exactly the same as my 1966 45 information is.
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As promised above, I have just timed my 1963 commercial 45 of "Wipe Out" (confirmed as Dot 16479, with machine-stamped deadwax of "MW-18041-1"), and time-wise, it exactly parallels my 1966 commercial 45 findings, with a listed time of (2:12) and an actual time of (2:16).
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The original issue was on the small DFS label and is very rare and worth high dollar. Dot picked this title up for national release and the Dot 45 was released twice. All Dot 45 singles have the same timing.
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I have an MCA reissue single that is a re-recording. It says on the bottom of the 45 label that this version was originally released on Decca. There is also a YouTube video that has the Decca 45 playing (a 1966 pressing, according to the guy who made the video), and the recording matches my reissue 45. It does not have the famous laugh at the beginning, but instead starts with the drum solo.
Was this yet a third release for "Wipeout" in the '60s? Did it chart?
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Aaron, when Dot acquired the "Wipe Out/Surfer Joe" 45 master from DFS, I
believe those were the only two tunes that Dot actually "owned" by the
band at that time. I believe that the quickly-prepared "Wipe Out" 1963 Dot
LP actually used studio musicians to crank out remakes of old hit
instrumentals to fill up the album. When "Wipe Out" first hit, the band was
courted by many labels. Decca offered the best deal, so the Surfaris
signed with them. Decca issued in total 11 45s and 5 LPs between '63 and
'66. (Only 1 45 hit the BB Hot 100, though - the first one, "Point Panic", 3
months after "Wipe Out".) And, when the "Wipe Out" Dot 45 version had its
second hit run in 1966, Decca desperately tried to cash in on it, by
releasing the re-recorded version you have on that MCA reprint, on a 45
(originally Decca 32003, b/w "I'm A Hog For You"). Decca might've sold a
few copies to some confused 1966 record store customers, but that
version never got any airplay at all, and was/is generally considered far
inferior to the Dot 45. That was enough agita for Decca, though, who then
dropped the Surfaris. One label HAD made money off the group, however:
Dot. And after its second chart hit run in '66, the group did finally sign
with them. But, after putting out two flop 45s, in late '66/early '67, Dot
then cut the Surfaris loose as well.
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MCA certainly didn't help to clarify any of the confusion. Even after acquiring the Dot hit and reissuing it under the old ABC Goldies 45 catalog number (2703, with "Surfer Joe" still on the flip) they continued to keep their reissue of the Decca remake (MCA 60055, with "I'm A Hog..." on the flip) in print for years.
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Thanks for all the great info, guys! There are a couple database CDs that say "re-recording." I wonder if those have the Decca re-recording.
Also, as a side note, the best copy on CD I've heard comes from Rhino's "Surfin' Hits." It blows away all other copies I've come across.
There is another Rhino compilation called "Frat Rock" that has skips/jumps in the audio, most noticeable at 0:26. This is because they edited out some of the loud clicks that appear on most copies.
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my 2 commercial 45's are the same as jim's above....if you
fade the 2:37 version for 0:06 from 2:10 to 2:16 you'll
effectively re-create the proper vinyl 45 version.....
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can anyone confirm with the extended version first appeared? I first got it on
the Vintage Music (but it has the clicking noises).
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