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My commercial 45 (MCA 52512, 1984, printed 3:45, actual 3:45) runs 149.5 BPM and has the "knocky" sound on the intro panned left.
The CD that matches the 45 most closely is Rhino's Billboard Top Hits - 1985 (1994). It runs at effectively the same tempo/pitch (technically, 149.8 BPM, so it's about 0.2% faster than the 45, which is insignificant), and it has the "knocky" sound on the intro panned left. It's mastered a bit loud so it clips, but it still sounds mighty nice.
There is a batch of CDs that use the same analog transfer as the Billboard CD:- Madacy's Rock On - 1985 (1996) (a digital clone, 1.4 dB quieter than Billboard)
- Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties - Cinemax Movie Hits Of The '80s (1996)(differently EQ'd digital clone)
- Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties - 1985 (1994)(levels drop 1 dB about halfway through, then another 1 dB later on - very odd)
- JCI's Only Dance - 1985-1989 (1995)(same level drops as above)
I bring all of this up because I found a pair of CDs that run too fast (150.6 BPM, or about 0.7% faster than the 45), have their left/right channels reversed, and sound a little muffled, like they came from a higher-generation source tape:- Warner Special Products' After Hours (1990, 3-CD set)
- Razor & Tie's Totally '80s (1993, 2-CD set) (uses same analog transfer as After Hours)
I prefer the sound on the Billboard CD, and the first batch listed above.
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Good info!
Upon playing this on the air, it occurred to me that I remember hearing it on the radio without the intro "noise" & "whoosh." However, I find no trace of any version on vinyl or CD edited by the record label that way.
I assume any station playing it this way chopped the intro themselves? (A common practice, I know.)
If it was never "officially" released w/o the intro, I can't see playing it w/o the into, no matter what the station I heard, did.
(I just attempted an edit and it can be done cleanly, at least in the digital domain... and many used to be as good with a razor blade as we can be now with Adobe Audition. The 1st beat sounds just slightly over-driven on my copy, but on a heavily-compressed 80s station, I doubt I would have noticed.)
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NightAire wrote:
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Upon playing this on the air, it occurred to me that I remember hearing it on the radio without the intro "noise" & "whoosh." However, I find no trace of any version on vinyl or CD edited by the record label that way. |
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Wasn't that the version that was used in the video?
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Hykker, that was a good idea, but it doesn't appear to be the case, unless there were two videos:
Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On (YouTube video)
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Holy cow! Just listening to a tape of KELI in Tulsa from 1984... and there's "The Heat Is On" with all but that last "whooOOSSHHH!" trimmed from it... so at least I know where I heard it edited!
I can annoy the former MD from there and ask him if he remembers trimming that intro. He loves it when I ask him about songs he carted up 27 years ago. ;-)
My trim of the same song started right on the downbeat; I'm guessing that would have been pretty tough to get right with analog equipment.
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NightAire wrote:
Holy cow! Just listening to a tape of KELI in Tulsa from 1984... and there's "The Heat Is On" with all but that last "whooOOSSHHH!" trimmed from it... so at least I know where I heard it edited!
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WLOL-FM, Minneapolis also played the version which began with the "wooosshhh".
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...and I just heard the edited intro on 98.5 KDES ("Classic Hits") out of Southern California.
WHERE did this version COME from?? Has every MD edited the intro? Possible, but it seems more likely there was an edit released, somewhere...
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You know how radio programmers think, Gene. They want to keep the momentum going after a jingle or sweeper, and the intro kind of kills the energy. Not saying that there wasn't a "no intro" version released on vinyl, but I think it's more likely that programmers just prefer to cue past it.
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