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This top 10 hit from George Michael's bass player is available in LP form on:
- Another Lost Decade - The '80s: Hard To Find Hits (Time-Life M19133, 2005; total run time of about 4:38; the best-sounding version available of this song)
- Turn It Up (PolyTel Canada 840533 2, 1989, total run time of about 4:40)
The 45 version has one simple edit in it, so here are instructions for the edit (times are for the Time-Life disc):
Keep 0:00.0-3:59.4 of the LP version.
Edit on the "4" beat, as in 1-2-3-4. This falls right in the middle of the word "me".
Keep 4:09.9-4:41.2 (end) of the LP version.
The total run time of the 45 is about 4:30.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 10 August 2020 at 1:06pm
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My promo CD single for this (CDP 44) has the following:
1-Heaven Help Me (listed 4:05; actual 4:27)
2-Heaven Help Me (LP Version) (listed 4:40; actual 4:37)
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Pat has incorporated Jim's promo CD single info into the database. I also wanted to pass along that the actual commercial 45 run time of Deon Estus with George Michael's "Heaven Help Me" is 4:26. (Timing info compliments of abagon. The printed record label time is 4:25.)
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Should he or shouldn't he? Artist credit is always so
confusing and this is yet another example. The front
sleeves for this single show this is by Deon Estus With
Additional Vocals by George Michael. The back sleeves
relegate Michael to background vocals along with Estus.
And the physical singles (record, cassingle, promo CD)
only list Estus as the artist. So, should this song be
credited to just Estus or to both Estus and Michael?
(Why do record companies make this so frustrating?!?)
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Scanner wrote:
Should he or shouldn't he? Artist credit is always so
confusing and this is yet another example. The front
sleeves for this single show this is by Deon Estus With
Additional Vocals by George Michael. The back sleeves
relegate Michael to background vocals along with Estus.
And the physical singles (record, cassingle, promo CD)
only list Estus as the artist. So, should this song be
credited to just Estus or to both Estus and Michael?
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I put it down as Don Estus With George Michael as indicated in the 45 and promo CD release, just leaving out "additional vocals by" to simplify since it is impled...
promo CD
https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heave n-Help-Me/release/4274046
45
https://www.discogs.com/Deon-Estus-With-George-Michael-Heave n-Help-Me/release/5042626
Edited by PopArchivist on 09 April 2020 at 7:15pm
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Funny...that's exactly where I sourced my confusion!
The sleeve credits Michael, but the actual 45 and CD
don't. Despite Michael's obvious contribution, I lean
toward not crediting him since the record itself
doesn't.
At least Michael got some credit unlike, say, Kenny
Rogers ("What Are We Doin' In Love"), Stevie Nicks
("Whenever I Call You Friend"), Olivia Newton-John ("Fly
Away") and so, so many others.
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Just revisiting this song, 13 years later.
The 45 is still not available on CD.
Fortunately, it's an easy edit that deletes 16 beats, from a snare hit in the word "me" at 3:59, to another snare hit in the word "me" at 4:09 or 4:10. You'll know if you got the edit points right if the word "your" immediately after the edit.
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To clarify, it is available on the promo CD single, which is quite rare. I don't know of any other CD source for it, though.
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crapfromthepast wrote:
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Not domestically.
I bought this a long time ago. It is available on a comp out of Germany called So80s.
https://www.discogs.com/Blank-Jones-So80s-Soeighties-6/relea se/13739056
Edited by PopArchivist on 23 August 2020 at 3:38pm
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That's not the 45 version... it's a bad edit of the LP
version. For some reason this CD has the intro notes
and first 4 bars (11 seconds) of the song cut off...
it starts with the muted trumpet and runs 4:28.
It's too bad it's not even the correct album version.
The fidelity on this compilation is really good.
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Bsharp-
The song appears twice on the SoEightles6 compilation. Once as the
last song in an album-length segued “mix”, and again on the “Unmixed”
disc where it runs the full-length of the album version. I have used that
version to recreate the single edit before. Are you sure you weren’t
listening to the segued/mixed version, as that would explain why the
first measures are missing?
-E
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EternalStatic wrote:
Bsharp-
The song appears twice on the SoEightles6 compilation.
Once as the
last song in an album-length segued “mix”, and again
on the “Unmixed”
disc where it runs the full-length of the album
version. I have used that
version to recreate the single edit before. Are you
sure you weren’t
listening to the segued/mixed version, as that would
explain why the
first measures are missing?
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That TOTALLY explains it... I had no idea about the
"unmixed" disc! I'm going to track it down now; thank
you!
(Unrelated but cool: the "Heaven Help Me" file that I
have now came from Deon Estus himself... he had shared
it via his Twitter account some time ago).
Edited by BSharp on 02 September 2020 at 5:10pm
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