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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 7:51pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Pat:

I have a K-Tel CD called Hooked on Classics by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra and it contains the LP version of the title track with a run time of 5:03. The catalog number is K-Tel 6113, though I'm pretty sure there have been several different pressings of this CD. You might want to incorporate this info into the database.

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Posted: 02 September 2008 at 12:29am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Has anyone made the single edit of this or know where the edit points are? The only version on CDs is the album version.
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Posted: 02 September 2008 at 2:01am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Yes, I've made an edit of this, and I seem to recall that it was a very easy one. There might have only been one edit in the whole thing. I'll try to dig it up for you.
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Posted: 02 September 2008 at 4:45am | IP Logged Quote eric_a

Roscoe tackled this a couple years ago. If you search titles for "Hooked On Singles," you'll find the old thread. I recreated the edit based on those edit points, and it was pretty simple.
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Posted: 04 February 2017 at 2:45pm | IP Logged Quote JL328

I was trying to find the exact edit point here. From the "Hooked On Classics"
album, I think I have it as:

Keep 0:00.000 to 1:41.532
Edit at 1:41.532
Delete 1:41.532 to 2:55.170
Keep 2:55.170 to End

Result runs 3:50.

I'm getting lost in those strings though. If I'm off by a note (or 5), please let
me know.
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Posted: 04 February 2017 at 9:04pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I have the LP version (denoted as "Hooked On Classics Parts 1 And 2") on three CDs, and all sound pretty much the same: excellent dynamic range, nice EQ, no evidence of NR, and no truncation on the fade. You probably wouldn't be able to tell them apart in an A/B test, and you'll be pleased with any of them. All of these have a tiny amount of tape drift, so the speed changes ever so slightly over the course of the song. You won't notice it.

The oldest is K-Tel's Hooked On Classics (1987), where it runs 130.1 BPM (at beginning) to 130.3 BPM (at end).

Next is RCA's Nipper's Greatest Hits The '80s (1990), where it runs 130.1 BPM (at beginning) to 130.2 BPM (at end).

Finally, it's also on EMI Australia's 5-CD Eighties Complete Vol. 2 (1999), where it runs 130.2 BPM (at beginning) to 130.4 BPM (at end).

The 45 edit has yet to appear on CD. Here are editing instructions, using Nipper's Greatest Hits The '80s as the source:

Segment 1
199 beats long (starting with first drum machine downbeat)
Ends on a snare immediately before Beethoven's 5th
Extends from 0:00.0 to 1:40.9 of LP version and 45 edit

Remove the 160 beats from 1:40.9 to 2:54.5 of LP version

Segment 2
277 beats long (ending with final drum machine downbeat)
Begins on a snare
Ends on a downbeat
Extends from 2:54.5 to 5:06.6 (end) of LP version
Extends from 1:40.9 to 3:52.9 (end) of 45 edit

Your mixdown with run 3:52.9 (including outro silence), 3:51 (excluding outro silence), with one edit at 1:40.9.

If you use the version from K-Tel's Hooked On Classics (1987), the edit falls at 1:40.6.

If you use the version from EMI Australia's 5-CD Eighties Complete Vol. 2 (1999), the edit falls at 1:40.2.

The B-side of the 45 is billed as "Part 2". It has a very abrupt fade-in, and instead of using the cold ending on the LP version, loops a portion near the end and fades out. I didn't analyze the B-side in too much detail.


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Posted: 05 February 2017 at 7:02am | IP Logged Quote JL328

crapfromthepast wrote:

If you use the version from K-Tel's Hooked On Classics (1987), the
edit falls at 1:40.6.

Thanks for looking into this one.

When I came up with my timing two posts above, I used the version of
Hooked on Classics from iTunes, and not the physical K-Tel CD itself
(I should have clarified this). Cutting at 1:40.6 of the iTunes version
loses the last little bit of the "flourish" at the end of (what I think is) the
Karelia Suite that appears on the 45 before the transition into Figaro.

The timing between the actual CD and the iTunes file must be slightly
different, which I suppose makes sense but I've never really thought
about.

Edited by JL328 on 05 February 2017 at 12:24pm
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