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Posted: 19 October 2006 at 8:25pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
The database lists this comment for Night Ranger's "Sister Christian":

1984 SISTER CHRISTIAN dj copies of this 45 ran (3:55) and (4:04); commercial copies were all (4:04); actual 45 time is (4:14) not (4:04) as stated on the commercial and dj copies

I just received a dub of the DJ 45 (the version without the guitar solo), and the actual run time is (3:59). Without having the actual 45, I cannot say if this has the printed run time of (3:55), but if so, that time would be incorrect.

Edited by aaronk on 19 October 2006 at 11:09pm
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Posted: 19 October 2006 at 9:28pm | IP Logged Quote cmmmbase
I have the commercial 45 and the DJ 45 (which states on label "without guitar solo"). They are not the same edit. My commercial 45 does time out to 4:14. My dub of the other version timed out to 3:59.

Edited by cmmmbase on 20 October 2006 at 4:40pm
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Posted: 19 October 2006 at 11:09pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Chuck, you are correct that the actual time is (3:59). I didn't take off the blank space at the beginning of my dub. However, Pat's info would need to be updated as the (3:55) printed time is off by four seconds.
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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:01pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
on another note regarding this song.....i have the "big 80's" vh1 cd and it has the proper 45 version, but this song on this cd is very very hissy....the fade out is almost unlistenable.....does anyone else have a cd with the 45 version on it that are not hissy.....i see there are some time life cd's which have the correct 45 version....

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Posted: 02 February 2007 at 7:14pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
The Rhino Omigod box set has a much less hissy version, although it runs slower than the 45 version. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say Rhino made an edit of the LP version to match the 45, as the box set version runs at the LP speed. More evidence: My copies of the LP version are far less hissy than that VH1 CD.
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Posted: 26 December 2008 at 1:29pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
bumping this one up to the top for the new viewers......does anyone have the proper 45 of this song that's not so hissy......i just reviewed the song again and the big 80's vh1 cd version is unbearable to listen to....unbelievably hissy....or can the 45 version be extracted from the lp version and matched for the correct speed??

Edited by edtop40 on 26 December 2008 at 1:30pm

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Posted: 26 December 2008 at 1:41pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Ed:

I have the 45 version on the Casey Kasem CD. Will shoot you a dub.
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Posted: 26 December 2008 at 2:56pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
john.....this version is equally as hissy....i'm hoping someone has a cleaner version of the 45 on cd

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Posted: 26 December 2008 at 3:15pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker
I have 2 promo singles of this, and both are very hissy sounding (the no-guitar version especially so). Indeed, the VH1 Big 80s CD is pristine by comparison. I wonder if anything cleaner even exists.
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Posted: 27 December 2008 at 11:09am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
aaron just sent me a copy of the omigod box set cd version sped up to the correct speed and it's much cleaner (less hissy) than the vh1 big 80's cd version.....thanks aaron...

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Posted: 27 December 2008 at 11:14pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
To create the 45 version, it appears as though an audio engineer at MCA may have dubbed the LP version onto another tape source before making the edits. This tape generation loss could explain the extra hiss on the 45 version.
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Posted: 05 January 2009 at 6:32pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Just received a 4:04 listed, 3:59 actual, promo 45 for Sister Christian. It's labeled as being (Without Guitar Solo), though that designation is not in the database.

For the radio guys out there, as my radio mind is cloudy at best on details, was the 3:59 edit especially for A/C stations? Or, did it also get Top 40 play?
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Posted: 06 January 2009 at 6:31am | IP Logged Quote Hykker
eriejwg wrote:

For the radio guys out there, as my radio mind is cloudy at best on details, was the 3:59 edit especially for A/C stations? Or, did it also get Top 40 play?


I don't recall the song getting much AC airplay back in '84...AC was still pretty much Barry Manilow, Christopher Cross, etc...even with the guitar solo removed, the song was a bit "rough" for most ACs of that era. Of course times change and I hear it even on the soft ACs (even sometimes with the guitar solo).

Seemed to be a mixed bag with CHRs...some played the edit, some played the version with the guitar bridge.
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Posted: 06 January 2009 at 12:04pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
I don't recall hearing "Sister Christian" on any Adult Contemporary stations in 1984 either. Like Hykker pointed out, most AC formats back then were predominantly programmed with easy listening ballads and love songs.
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Posted: 03 April 2021 at 9:31am | IP Logged Quote VWestlife
The "Without Guitar Solo" version is not a further edit of the single edit -- instead, it's a different edit of the album version.

Going by the copy that's on the "Boogie Nights" CD, you remove 2:44.31 to 3:41.27, and then speed up the result by about 1.4%.
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