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Todd Ireland
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I've verified with Edtop40 that commercial 45 copies of Hall & Oates' "Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid" run (4:02), not (3:50) as stated on the record label. This info should probably be incorporated into the database.
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Can the 45 version be edited from the album track?
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Don't know if it can be recreated from the Album Version,
but
I believe the 45 version is on the Japanese import "The
Best Of Daryl Hall And John Oates" which has 21 tracks
and has several single versions and a few radio edits.
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The 45 version can definitely be extracted from the LP version. I have
done so, but I did not keep notes on my edit points. It was a pretty
standard process, though. I think you just cut a whole lot of things in
half basically — the intro, a chorus or two, and the instrumental bridge
IIRC.
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thecdguy:
That Japan "Best Of" is an interesting collection. Was
there a 3:26 version of "Maneater?" I don't recall that
song was ever edited.
EternalStatic:
That's what I feared - it does not sound as if this
would be easy to edit. There's no obvious sections that
could be cut out.
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Regarding “Maneater,” there is a US promo 45 edit that trims the intro
and sax solo, and I’m pretty sure it also fades early.
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Scanner wrote:
thecdguy:
That Japan "Best Of" is an interesting collection.
Was
there a 3:26 version of "Maneater?" I don't recall
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Yes, like Aaron said, there was indeed a Promo 45 of
"Maneater" running 3:26 and that version is on the
Japanese "Best Of". The Promo Edit of "So Close" is
also on there as well, even though the actual promo CD
single incorrectly listed it as "Single Edit".
Edited by thecdguy on 15 December 2019 at 5:26am
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I thought I had posted edit details for this in an
older thread.. I did and found the instructions, but I
just checked the LP version and noticed my edit points
in that old thread were for a "pitch corrected" LP
version. The 45 was sped up a bit.
Here are the edit times for the non-pitched LP
version:
These times assume you'll make edits starting at the
intro [the later times are only accurate if you've
already done the first edits].
There are 3 edits:
Edit on downbeat from :04 - :21 in intro.
Edit on snare from 2:11 - 2:27
Edit on snare from 3:43 - 4:08
Now in that result, edit off remaining audio after
4:04 then fade from about 3:46 to 4:04. The last
thing you hear at the end of the fade is the word
"unsaid"
I don't have the exact pitch number but you'll speed
up your result so it runs 4:02.
Here is a Youtube reference for the 45 to be sure of
your edits (note the record doesn't start playing
until :19 seconds in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP91dqJ3KhQ
MM
Edited by MMathews on 15 December 2019 at 5:31pm
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Got it - thanks!
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I thought it was going to be a topic on Olivia Newton-
John's "I Honestly Love you"lol.:D
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I have a 256k MP3 of the actual 45 dub.
Anyone interested welcomed to PM for a copy!
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The 45 version of 'Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid'
is definitely on the Japanese import "The
Best Of Daryl Hall And John Oates".
The actual 45 version of 'Method Of Modern Love' is on
there as well.
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MMathews wrote:
Edit on snare from 2:11 - 2:27
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Listening to the 45 version on the Japan "Best Of", to my
ears, the "ooooh" vocal comes in before the snare at 2:11,
so isn't the edit actually just before the snare at 2:11? I
was unable to re-create this edit, for that reason, or
maybe I could not get it at the right point. I'm wondering
if it is a unique mix, at least at the section. Just
curious what others think.
Edited by Bellenger1981 on 30 October 2022 at 2:39pm
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Sounds to me like the Japan CD does a crossfade at the edit point, which is not correct. The US 45 has a straight edit on the snare hit, so you don't hear the "oooh" vocal before the drum beat.
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That answers my question, Aaron. Thanks!
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