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Posted: 09 July 2006 at 2:13pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Pat:

Thanks to help from Ed and Jim, we've uncovered the following information regarding Boston's "We're Ready" which should probably be updated in the database:

DJ copies of this 45 run (4:10) and (3:47), not (4:14) and (3:49) as stated on the record label; commercial copies run (4:10), not (4:14) as stated on the record label
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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 12:55am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Since the database doesn't label the current CDs as "LP version" or "LP length," does anyone know what the difference is, given that the 45 is :12 longer than any CD version?
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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 6:28am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

i believe they're the same version except that on the full length cd, they merge that song into the following song, while the 45 has a very slow gradual fade out for the last 0:20.....i know one or two cd's have the correct 45 version...would you like a copy?

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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:13am | IP Logged Quote Roscoe

edtop40 wrote:
i believe they're the same version except that on the full length cd, they merge that song into the following song, while the 45 has a very slow gradual fade out for the last 0:20.....i know one or two cd's have the correct 45 version...would you like a copy?


Which CDs have the extended 45 fade? All the CDs listed in the database have the LP length.
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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:57am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

i believe it was a madacy cd from canada that has the proper 45 version.....

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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 8:57am | IP Logged Quote abagon

I also think that both the 45 and the LP are the same. However this LP track crosses over the next track "The Launch" and the previous track "Amanda". It might that "We're Ready" actually is running till "4:10" although it's impossible for us to listen to it because of overlap. I don't have some compilation CDs including this song. I suppose the "We're Ready" intro is including the "Amanda's ending tone" if their CDs used "Third Stage" source.

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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 7:17pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

After looking into this situation further, I hear cymbal taps preceding the first guitar note on the introduction on the LP version while these taps are missing on the 45 version so the database has been updated to indicate that all appearances on cd so far are either the LP version (which tracks into the next selection) or the LP version faded before it could track into the next selection.

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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 6:03am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Soo, if you have the 4:09 version, edit out the beginning cymbal taps, you have the 45 version?
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:01am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Here's some information regarding a Madacy release from 2004, containing a 4:09 version of "We're Ready."

Best Of The 80's [Madacy 2004">
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:06am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

i actually got the track off the cd below

Ultimate Power of Supergroups
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Artist

Various Artists

Album

Ultimate Power of Supergroups

Release Date

Jun 25, 2002

Label


Madacy

Type


Various Artists

Genre Styles
Rock
Pop
Album Rock
New Wave
Pop/Rock
Hard Rock
Arena Rock
Glam Rock
Prog-Rock/ Art Rock
Country-Rock


Moods
Sugary
Yearning
Plaintive
Romantic
Sentimental
Bittersweet
Brash
Amiable/ Good-Natured
Exuberant
Earnest
Innocent
Slick
Energetic
Fun
Playful
Sweet
Confident
Rousing
Theatrical
Summery


AMG Album ID

R   598638

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Tracks
   
    
    
    
Title   
Performer   
Time   

      1 Rosanna Toto 5:32
       2 The Tide Is High Blondie 4:43
       3 Voices Carry 'Til Tuesday 4:23
       4 We're Ready Boston 4:09
       5 Poison Alice Cooper 4:31
      6 I Melt With You Modern English 3:48
      7 Your Love Outfield 3:43
      8 In Your Room Bangles 3:28
      9 Burnin' for You Blue Oyster Cult 4:31
      10 Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now Starship 4:30
       11 Turn Me Loose Loverboy 5:38
       12 And We Danced Hooters 3:49
       13 What I Like About You Romantics 2:56
       14 The Final Countdown Europe 5:08
      15 More Than a Feeling Boston 4:46
       16 American Woman Guess Who 5:10
       17 Black Magic Woman Santana 3:16
      18 Come Sail Away Styx 6:01
       19 Hold the Line Toto 3:58
       20 Count on Me Jefferson Starship 3:17
      21 Frankenstein Winter, Edgar Group 4:45
      22 (Don't Fear) The Reaper Blue Oyster Cult 5:10
       23 So into You Alanta Rhythm Section 4:23
      24 All the Young Dudes Mott The Hoople 3:32
       25 Cover of the Rolling Stone Dr. Hook & The Medi ... 2:54
Performed by: Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show


      26 Go All the Way Raspberries 3:21
       27 Sooner or Later Grass Roots 2:42
       28 Reminiscing Little River Band 4:12





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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:50am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

The Best of the '80s CD appears to be identical to Disc 1 of the Ultimate Power of Supergroups compilation, which is a 2-disc set.
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 7:55pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Any info yet on the cymbal removal/45 version question?
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 9:02pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial 45 issued as mca 52985 contains a non described version on the A-side, with a listed running time of 4:14 but actually runs 4:09 and is identical to the version from the madacy cd

Ultimate Power of Supergroups

this info should be added to the db......both the commercial 45 and this version have NO cymbal taps before the guitar riff kicks in....









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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:07pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Ed: Wonderful detective work, thank you!

LOVE the scans...Boston always had very cool artwork!
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Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:10pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Agreed... Ed's photo scans are getting better and better all the time!
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Posted: 07 December 2015 at 12:29am | IP Logged Quote NightAire

RADIO FOLK: did radio play the 4:10 version (which I assume is the "no-crossfade" version of the LP track), or the 3:47 version... and if they played the 3:47 version, was it an edit or a remix... and if it was an edit can you tell me the edit points?

...and does it bother you when I ask all these questions in one, run-on sentence? ;-)

(Thanks!)

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eriejwg wrote:
Any info yet on the cymbal removal/45 version question?


My MCA 52985 (b/w "The Launch") lists a 4:14 run time and does indeed run that length (although it's not especially easy to determine with that absurdly long fade-out; you really need to crank your volume to hear when it finally fades out to zero).

My 45 also has the hi-hat intro before the guitar comes in.

The matrix number is: MC-22222-E MD2.

The label is a variant from the one posted above. It is identical to the one at 45cat here.
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Posted: 28 February 2016 at 9:32pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

My stock copy matches what Plastic Steel has, including the deadwax info. It does contain cymbal taps before the first guitar note. Good catch on that one! Pat, it looks like you'll need to amend the database entry again, since some copies contain the hi-hat intro.

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Posted: 28 February 2016 at 9:55pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I also have a promo 45 dub, courtesy of Jim, and both sides of his promo 45 have the hi-hat taps before the first guitar note. For those curious about the promo 45 edit, there is only one edit and a slightly early fade. The edit removes 3:30 to 3:37 of the commercial 45 version, and it occurs on the second to last kick drum. The song then fades to the 3:48 mark (after you've made the edit). Goes like this with the "/" indicating the edit:

"We're ready now, oooo-oooo/oooooooooooooo"

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Posted: 29 February 2016 at 5:07pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Can you describe how to recreate the promo 45 fade,
Aaron? Is it a swordfish fade or other type? ;)

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