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JMD1961
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Topic: Randy Prices Super ChartsPosted: 19 September 2021 at 4:15pm |
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I don't know how many here might be familiar with Randy
Price's Super Charts project, so I thought I would bring it up. Randy is the same guy who collected the Cash Box charts for their website. Apparently, he's been working on a project that would attempt to combine the methods of the three major music trades (Billboard, Cash Box, Record World) into an overall chart. I've seen them here and there on the Forgotten Hits blog from time to time, and they're really fun to look at. Well, this year, the blog has been posting the charts from 1971 every Sunday. Check them out. http://forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com/ And anyone who is familiar with the project, do you know if he intends to make them all available at some point? |
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Posted: 19 September 2021 at 7:09pm |
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Why not ask Randy direct? He’s really helpful and a chart lover.
His public email is randypny@gmail.com |
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Posted: 22 September 2021 at 9:41am |
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They are fun to look at for sure. Obviously a labor of love for Randy. I know that Kent Kotal approached Joel
about printing them as a Record Research book, but Joel's really not interested. Maybe they could do some kind of online funding campaign and pay to have them printed themselves. Or maybe just offer them digitally. |
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Posted: 23 September 2021 at 4:04am |
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Kent Kotal and I are still discussing ways to make the SuperCharts available at
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Posted: 24 September 2021 at 7:32am |
Randy, please tell us more. Are you calculating the average of Billboard, Cashbox, and Record World each week, or is there more math to it than that? Cheers !! Edited by RoknRobnLoxley |
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Posted: 26 September 2021 at 3:47pm |
Not speaking for Randy here. But as someone who has tried to do just that, it's not really that easy. Differences in the three charts make a straight average difficult. For one thing, there's the fact that both Cash Box & Record World, in the 60's, combined various versions of the same song in one chart position, while Billboard separated them. Then, in the late 60's, Billboard & Record World began listing two-sided hits in a single position, while Cash Box separated them until sometime in the mid-70's. Both of these differences can cause issues. I can understand why Randy would want to keep his precise method to himself, I would be curious to hear how he dealt with either or both of these situations. Either way, Randy, know that, whatever way you and Kent come up with to share these charts, you can count on me to be ready to pay for it. The 1971 charts have been a blast. |
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Posted: 22 March 2023 at 6:25pm |
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Does anyone know what happened to Randy's Cashbox site?
When I try to access it now, I am receiving an Error Message: "Suspended page" |
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Posted: 22 March 2023 at 6:55pm |
If you do a GOOGLE search for "Cashbox" and a specific decade (50s, 60s, etc.), you can find your way back to the decade-specific pages and the 10 years within them but the links to the other decades within those pages are not active. I'm assuming the site is now dormant or there are issues with the webhost, even though the charts are still accessible using this reverse-engineering method. Hopefully most if not all of this is backed up on wayback machine by now. |
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Posted: 23 March 2023 at 3:01am |
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Here's part of the message that Randy posted last month on BSN...
We're working on transferring the Cash Box Archives to a different provider, which I hope will alleviate the problems that have sometimes cropped up in recent years. |
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Posted: 23 March 2023 at 5:58pm |
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Thanks, Jared and Paul. Good to know the site is just in
transition now, not lost forever. I was able to locate the decade pages for the '50's, '60's, '70's and '80's, but not the '90's. I also could not find any of the Country archives. This one I miss the most as Record Research has not published any books yet for that. (Hint, hint - Paul!) |
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