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MMathews
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Hi folks,
I've been working on "16 Candles" and I checked the
database to be sure my file runs the correct time.
There's no actual time for the 45 listed, and I see
times on CDs ranging from 2:48 to 2:56.
The song ends cold, so the times have to reflect
different speeds, and a pitch change from 2:48 to 2:56
would be VERY noticeable.
Does anyone have an original Coed 45 that you could
provide the actual run time?
Thanks in advance,
Mark M
[Edit: I notice the label's listed time is 2:49]
Edited by MMathews on 15 September 2021 at 4:25pm
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MMathews
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Hi all,
I was finally able to get an original Coed pressing for
this. Listed Time is (2:49), but I'm calling the actual
time at (2:50). This is because the reverb tail at the
cold ending is still audible at a hair past 2:49.5 ....
so it's a very close call but I call it for (2:50).
That would mean every CD that runs longer also runs too
slow. I might suggest all sources longer than (2:51)
have the comment "slower than the 45".
Fortunately, most CDs are in the correct range of 2:49 -
2:50
MM
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Sorry, I missed your initial post, Mark. My Coed 506 copy runs 2:50.1 (RCA Indianapolis pressing).
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Bill Cahill
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Yes my Coed 45 is 2:50 also. It also sounds like there is tape wow on the opening of the song on that first
piano note.
Edited by Bill Cahill on 21 September 2021 at 1:34pm
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For what it's worth, of the 11 CDs I have with this song, differences in speed account for 4 seconds of time difference.
Specifically, the fastest-playing version (1991's Love Me Tender and 1994's Only Rock And Roll 1955-1959) gets to the last note about 4 seconds faster than the slowest-playing version (1987's Real Rock).
Rhino's Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1959 (1988) is right in the middle of the pack, for what it's worth.
Edit: If you start a timer at the start of the opening note (i.e. get rid of any opening silence), the last note starts at:
2:45.9 - Real Rock
2:44.1 - Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1959
2:41.8 - Love Me Tender and Only Rock And Roll 1955-1959
Hope this helps.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 21 September 2021 at 3:18pm
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Just to add to what has already been said, my copy of
Coed-506 "Sixteen Candles" also lists a time of 2:49 and
runs 2:50.
As Bill stated above, that first note on the 45 sounds a
little wonky to me, as if it's wobbly or pitched up half
a note or something (at least compared to my copy on the
Rhino Doo Wop box).
Jon O.
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