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This post will end up looking a lot like the "Baby Love" and "Come See About Me" posts. There is most definitely a formula to these, much like the Motown hits themselves.
Mono version
In 1964, the hit was the 45 version, and the 45 was mono. (That's true of pretty much every hit in 1964.)
I see that the mono version appeared on CD on Motown's Supremes collection Every Great #1 Hit (1987), Motown's 4-CD Diana Ross box set Forever Diana (1993), Motown's Diana Ross collection The Ultimate Collection (1994), Motown's 2-CD Supremes collection Anthology (1995), and then many others downstream.
I personally have Ultimate Collection (1994), which sounds just fine for this track.
I also have Motown's 2-CD Anthology (1995), which sounds about as good as Ultimate, and is my go-to source for the mono version. The same analog transfer is used on:- Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Rhythm And Blues Collection Vol. 3 1964-1967 (2000) - fades a second or two early, and seems severely compressed around -8 dB (!) Not sure what's happening here; avoid.
- Rhino's Millennium New Soul Party (2000)
- Rhino's Girl Group Greats (2001)
It's also on Hip-O Select's Complete Motown Singles Vol. 4 1964 Disc 5 (2006).
I'd recommend Rhino's Millennium New Soul Party (2000) if you want a compilation, or the 1995 Anthology if you want a Supremes set.
Stereo
I know of three different stereo mixes for "Where Did Our Love Go".
Stereo 1964 Where Did Our Love Go LP mix
Starting at about 0:11, this mix has the claps in the left channel, and the drums in the left channel.
It showed up first on CD on a Motown Supremes collection called Compact Command Performances 20 Greatest Hits (1983), as part of Motown's first-ever CD releases. The same analog transfer is used on:- Motown Supremes Greatest Hits Vol. 1 And 2 (1986)
- Motown's Motown's Biggest Pop Hits (1986)
- Motown's Every Great Motown Song The First 25 Years (1986)
- Original Sound's Oldies But Goodies Vol. 8 (1986) - adds noise reduction; avoid
- Motown's You Can't Hurry Love (1986)
- Motown's Motown 9000 Series (1987)
- Motown's 16 #1 Hits From The Early '60s (1987)
- Time-Life's Classic Rock Vol. 9 1964 The Beat Goes On (1988) - left/right channels swapped; makes a very cool descending noise down around -40 dB at the end of the fade, but that's not part of the song
- PolyGram's PGD Presents Sound Savers Vol. 1 (1991)
There are different analog transfers on:- Warner Special Products' 2-CD Real Rock (1987) - sounds muddy; avoid
- Time-Life's Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 10 1964 (1987) - sound quality comparable to Compact Command Performances
- Rhino's Billboard Top R&B Hits 1964 (1989) - much better sound than all of the above; brighter EQ, too
I recommend Rhino's Billboard Top R&B Hits 1964 (1989) for this mix.
Stereo 1967 Greatest Hits LP mix
Starting at about 0:11, this mix has the claps in the left channel, and the drums in the right channel.
A YouTube video shows this version as being on the 1973 Anthology LP, with the silver cover.
I have three different analog transfers for this mix:- Motown/Silver Eagle's 3-CD Motown 25th Anniversary (copyright 1983)
- Motown's 2-CD Supremes Anthology (1986)
- Motown's Motown Year By Year 1964 (1995) - extends about 8 beats longer than the above two
I recommend Motown's Motown Year By Year 1964 (1995) for this mix.
Stereo 2003 The No. 1's album mix
Suha Gur remixed all the Supremes tracks on The No. 1's (but not the Diana Ross solo tracks).
German version
I'm not sure when the Supremes rerecorded their tracks in German. It's on Motown Around The World (1987).
I will edit this initial post as needed to incoporate any additional info that turns up downstream in this thread.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 24 January 2021 at 10:14pm
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I also believe I hear an extra handclap in the mono that is either not in or totally
mixed out of the stereo. It starts at 0:04.
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Yes, the mono mix does contain extra claps on the downbeat that aren't in the stereo mixes.
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Lunar, you are the first person to support my hearing that extra or mixed way
up handclap overdub. No-one else has. thank YOU!
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Wow I never knew about the added hand claps in the mono.
There's just new info to be learned here all the time!
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It's not easy to spot in the mono as they mix in with the
'stomps'.
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