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edtop40 wrote:
| ...the commercial 45 states a run time of 4:11 while the cassingle has no notation... |
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Actually, it does say "(4:11)" on the cassette shell, ed... :-)
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balls!!!....it does....thanks for the heads up..
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I have 2 commercial 45 copies of the "PAULA ABDUL - Straight Up". One has the "Cold Hearted" on the other side, another has the "Straight Up-POWERMIX". Both 45s run (4:07), and have the same catalogue number (Virgin 7-99256 & The listed time "4:11".) Both record labels are the same as the scan by edtop40. Also I have the parent LP "Forever Your Girl" U.S. releases (Virgin 7 90943-1). "Straight Up" on the LP has (4:09) of the actual running time with the listed time "4:11" on the record label. Both the 45s are faded out :02 earlier than the LP.
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edtop40 wrote:
| the commercial 45 was NOT originally issued with a picture sleeve... |
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IIRC, this single was kind of rush-released, after "Straight Up" had begun to receive attention from some segment of the market, even in the absence of a commercially released single. This probably explains why "Straight Up" didn't have a picture sleeve in its 45 form. Given the time constraints, they threw together artwork for the by then commerically more important cassette single format, but not the 45.
Virgin's U.S. distributor, Atlantic/Warner Music, was definitely still making picture sleeves at the time. They would continue to do so until very late in 1989, even releasing a few scattered sleeves after that into 1990. I think every other single from Forever Your Girl came as a 45 with a picture sleeve. This includes those that weren't released until later than "Straight Up", as illustrated by Ed's other posts.
At the time "Straight Up" was released, the album hadn't really broken big yet. The first single, "Knocked Out", had stalled just short of the Top 40, and the second, the recently-released "The Way That You Love Me" was down in the lower reaches of the Hot 100. Seeing an opportunity, Virgin quickly dropped "The Way That You Love Me" and issued "Straight Up" instead. The former song was of course reissued later, and would become a big hit in the end.
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Not all of the other Forever Your Girl singles came with picture sleeves. I believe "Knocked Out" (b/w Instrumental) came in a generic Virgin sleeve design with a logo sticker affixed to the front.
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I have a US "Knocked Out" picture sleeve.
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Weird, my commercial "Knocked Out" 45 is as described above.
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The database currently states the following for Paula Abdul's "Straight Up":
(dj copies of this 45 ran (3:50); commercial copies of this 45 run (4:10) and (4:57); the cassette single runs (4:10))
It should probably be clarified in the database that the 4:57 version is also known as the "Power Mix". However, to my knowledge, the "Power Mix" only appeared as the B-side on some commercial 45 and cassette single pressings. I don't believe there are any commercial single pressings where the "Power Mix" is the featured track.
Also, I notice a 6:54 version of "Straight Up" has surfaced on Abdul's Shut Up and Dance (The Remixes) CD (Virgin 91362 and 86163) and naturally contains a "remixed" comment. Can anyone confirm if this version is the same as the "12" Remix" featured on the commercial 12" single, which lists a printed run time of 6:52? If so, then it might be more accurate to have a "12" Version" or "12" Remix" comment listed next to the Shut Up and Dance disc.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 01 July 2009 at 9:36am
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Todd, the version on the "Shut Up and Dance" CD is not the original 12" Remix. It's called Ultimix (they are still around, an officially licensed remix services company). I can check the actual runtime of the 12" vinyl version when I get home if you need it.
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Thanks, elcoleccionista. I'm not particularly concerned here about the 12" vinyl run time... I was just curious to know if it was the same as the remix appearing on the Shut up and Dance disc, which you've confirmed it is not.
By the way, does anyone recall hearing (or playing) the "Power Mix" of "Straight Up"? And has the "Power Mix" ever appeared on any CD in its entirety? (I know Brian mentioned he was at least able to re-create it by splicing two of the tracks on the import 3" CD single together.)
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crapfromthepast wrote:
My edition of Pat's book indicates that DJ 45 copies ran 3:50, while commercial copies ran 4:11 and 4:57.
The 3:50 version is just an early fade of the LP version, and can be recreated with a 24-beat fade from 3:33.0-3:48.0. (Times from CD
Forever Your Girl.) |
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Just confirming for anyone who may know? Is the 3:50 dj edit an early fade of the LP version or is the intro shortened as Hykker mentioned?
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My copy is from Greatest Hits and runs 3:48. Ron is
usually pretty good at determining whether a song is an
edit or an early fade. I'd go with the DJ edit being an
early fade.
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I stand corrected. Hykker is right. The 4:11 version has
Paula's vocal coming in at :20 in. The DJ edit has her
vocal starting at :10 in.
Guess the DJ edit will need to be looked at more closely.
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And just to clarify further, the 3:50 version that Ron referred to earlier is
the UK copy found on the Now V/A comps. Based on this info, there
appears to be two different 3:50 versions: the US promo edit and the
UK early fade.
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Thank you gentleman! I can sleep tonight.
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Hykker wrote:
Unmentioned so far is the 7" promo
which is shown as an edit and is listed as running
3:50. The intro is shortened, maybe a slightly
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Interesting that this 3:50 edit which was released on
7" promo vinyl wasn't used for the promo CD (by the
way, it was used for the video as well and can be
easily recreated using the album version).
Anybody remember hearing one over the other on the
radio?
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I only ever heard this edit on the video. I knew that there was a promo edit, but never heard it on-air.
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