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Posted: 13 August 2020 at 8:41pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

LP version (4:05)

It's on the full-length Duran Duran album, Capitol's Big Thing (1988). And that's it. The LP version is sparse and weird, compared to the 45 version. I can see why this version of the song isn't used on any later CDs.

45 version (3:48)

The promo CD single is Capitol DPRO-79426, copyright 1988, with the following two tracks:

1 - "7 Inch Mix", printed 3:47, actual 3:48
2 - "Big Mix", printed 7:25, actual 7:33

The following discs use the same analog transfer as the promo CD single:
  • EMI Virgin PolyGram's UK 2-CD Now That's What I Call Music Vol. 13 (1988) - runs about two seconds short; avoid
  • Capitol's Decade (1989) - differently-EQ'd digital clone
  • swaitek's promo 50-CD The A List Disc 46 (1994) - has added noise reduction, and is almost certainly based on a TM Century mastering
  • EMI's Rock 'N Roll Relix 1988-1989 (1998) - digitally exactly 2.43 dB quieter than Decade
I don't have Duran Duran's Greatest (1998). There are three other small-label compilations that are likely based on the mastering from Decade, but I can't confirm.

My recommendations

Assuming you want the 45 version...

If you want a single-artist CD, I love the first Duran Duran greatest hits package, Capitol's Decade (1989). Superb sound, nice track selection (except it omits "New Moon On Monday"). This was a favorite CD of mine back when.

If you want a compilation CD, I can endorse EMI's Rock 'N Roll Relix 1988-1989 (1998), which seems to be mostly (entirely?) made up of level-shifted digital clones of other existing CDs, without any early fades, added compression/limiting, or noise reduction.

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Posted: 15 September 2020 at 8:17am | IP Logged Quote LunarLaugh

Greatest has the track running at 3:48 so I'm
assuming it also contains the "7 inch mix" but I have
nothing else to compare it to. The Levels on this disc
are a bit on the louder side, though the dynamics
(thankfully) aren't completely obliterated. It was
compiled and "co-remastered" by Nigel Reeve at Abbey Road
and compared to other discs that were coming out from
Abbey Road around the same time, this one seems a little
more tame and free of those dreaded NoNoise artifacts.
Not saying it's perfect, by any means.

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Decade beats Greatest in sound quality
across the board, but Greatest does have a great
song selection. Too bad they never produced a good 2-
disc Duran Duran Greatest Hits before the loudness wars
began. It would have also been great to include the
Arcadia and Power Station hits too.
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Posted: 15 September 2020 at 9:27am | IP Logged Quote LunarLaugh

Ringmaster_D wrote:
Decade beats
Greatest in sound quality
across the board, but Greatest does have a great
song selection. Too bad they never produced a good 2-
disc Duran Duran Greatest Hits before the loudness wars
began. It would have also been great to include the
Arcadia and Power Station hits too.

Right. Decade is still missing "Union of The
Snake" and the 90s stuff which is the major reason I
sprung for Greatest all those years ago.
I personally could have done without the non-US Hits
("Planet Earth" doesn't do much for me) and wish they
could have been replaced with the likes of "Election
Day" by Arcadia.

A big issue with compiling Duran Duran is that they had
so many variations in some of their big hits. I, for
one, was more familiar with the video versions of their
hits than anything else. They were the quintessential
'image band', really. I think a compilation of the
familiar video edits of their songs would make a great
listen.

Edited by LunarLaugh on 15 September 2020 at 9:27am


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Hmmm, my copy of Decade definitely has “Union Of The Snake.”

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Ringmaster_D wrote:
Decade beats Greatest in sound quality
across the board, but Greatest does have a great
song selection. Too bad they never produced a good 2-
disc Duran Duran Greatest Hits before the loudness wars
began. It would have also been great to include the
Arcadia and Power Station hits too.


You would need 3 discs to include all of Rio, those songs are brilliant. Every song on Rio is worth listening to. While there hits post 2000 are not of the same quality adding them to the mix (Reach Up For The Sunrise, Falling Down) is necessary to round it out. Leaving off New Moon on Monday on Decade was a big mistake.

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Posted: 16 September 2020 at 7:24am | IP Logged Quote LunarLaugh

aaronk wrote:
Hmmm, my copy of Decade definitely has “U
nion Of The Snake.”


I woke up in the middle of the night with the terrifying
realization that I had mixed up "New Moon on Monday" and
"Union of The Snake".

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LunarLaugh wrote:
aaronk wrote:

Hmmm, my copy of Decade definitely
has “U
nion Of The Snake.”


I woke up in the middle of the
night with the terrifying
realization that I had mixed up
"New Moon on Monday" and
"Union of The Snake".

"New Moon on Monday" was only
included on Greatest,
whereas "Union of the Snake"
appears both on Decade and
Greatest.
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Posted: 16 September 2020 at 1:56pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

There is also the US commercial CD single, which goes for very little money, like six bucks or less:

https://www.discogs.com/Duranduran-I-Dont-Want-Your-Love/rel ease/1030676
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LunarLaugh wrote:
[QUOTE=Ringmaster_D]
Decade beats
Greatest in sound quality
across the board, but Greatest does have a
great
song selection. Too bad they never produced a good 2-
disc Duran Duran Greatest Hits before the loudness
wars
began. It would have also been great to include the
Arcadia and Power Station hits too.

Additionally, "Serious" was the only track from
Liberty (1990) that appeared on Greatest
because Liberty was a failure. I think
"Violence of Summer (Love's Taking Over)" could have
been included on Greatest representing
Liberty instead of including "Serious".
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David Pro wrote:

Additionally, "Serious" was the only track from
Liberty (1990) that appeared on Greatest
because Liberty was a failure. I think
"Violence of Summer (Love's Taking Over)" could have
been included on Greatest representing
Liberty instead of including "Serious".


As I understand it, "Serious" originally wasn't going to
be on the tracklist, but was added in (and subbed out a
different song, but I can't remember which) since it's a
bit of a fan favorite.
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LunarLaugh wrote:

Ringmaster_D wrote:
Decade
beats
Greatest in sound quality
across the board, but
Greatest does have a great
song selection. Too bad they never
produced a good 2-
disc Duran Duran Greatest Hits
before the loudness wars
began. It would have also been
great to include the
Arcadia and Power Station hits too.

Right. Decade is still
missing "Union of The
Snake" and the 90s stuff which is
the major reason I
sprung for Greatest all
those years ago.
I personally could have done
without the non-US Hits
("Planet Earth" doesn't do much for
me) and wish they
could have been replaced with the
likes of "Election
Day" by Arcadia.

A big issue with compiling Duran
Duran is that they had
so many variations in some of their
big hits. I, for
one, was more familiar with the
video versions of their
hits than anything else. They were
the quintessential
'image band', really. I think a
compilation of the
familiar video edits of their songs
would make a great
listen.

In the case of Greatest most
of the tracks were included on
their 45 versions in order to fit
19 tracks on a single CD.
Decade used the LP version
of "Rio" and the UK 45 version of
"Save a Prayer", but
Greatest uses the US 45
versions of those two songs.
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