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AndrewChouffi
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Hi everyone,
Anyone out there know of any stereo source of "Fool On
The Hill" that is not encoded with the Haeco-CSG
system?
I seem to recall the original vinyl LP was CSG encoded
and every subsequent compilation contained this murky
stereo version.
If no one knows of a domestic or import source of this
hit, has anyone out there used software to simulate
the removal of the phase errors the CSG system
introduces?
Thank you!
Andy
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MPH711
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MixerRog on the Both Sides Now board has removed CGS
from a number of tracks. He did give me the song to give
you. I'll send it to you to check it out.
Mike
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If you get the Audacity program and also download the
free PhaseBug VST plug-in for it, you can remove all CSG
processing by rotating the left or right channel by plus
or minus 90
degrees (typically).
Edited by LunarLaugh on 29 June 2020 at 8:51pm
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This is what the results will sound like when you remove
the processing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scA-
Ta1Equg&feature=emb_title
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AndrewChouffi
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Thanks for the information everybody!
Andy
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I went to youtube and listened to the "Processing
removed" track. Then I went to a couple other places
and listened to ones that were dubbed direct from the
vinyl.
Am I so untrained that I don't particularly hear
distortion or "Muddiness" in the other tracks?
What I did seem to perceive was a change in position
for instruments and vocals. As a Beatles and Mendes
fan, I have become accustomed to hearing, (Or, in this
case not hearing much in the middle.)
Sort of like a dead zone in the middle of the
channels. Is this what the Haeco-CSG processing was
all about? The "Process removed" version seems to have
more going on in the middle. Especially, the female
lead sounds more in the middle.
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AndrewChouffi
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Yes, AdvprosD, that is what I meant by
"murky" or "muddy" - as in
"not clear or not focused".
The center-channel info in a Haeco-CSG
processesed
stereo track is partially out-of-phase
and annoyingly
out-of-focus.
Andy
Edited by AndrewChouffi on 27 July 2020 at 2:52pm
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