Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Chat Board
 Top 40 Music on Compact Disc : Chat Board
Subject Topic: Explicit Top 40 Hits Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
jebsib
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 06 April 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 74
Posted: 13 January 2020 at 6:24pm | IP Logged Quote jebsib

This week's #1 song is Roddy Ricch's "The Box", currently unavailable
commercially in a Clean Version and jam-packed with expletives and N-Words.

While there have been coarse / vulgar hits for decades, does anyone know the
first commercial hits that actually had out-and-out swear words?   
Back to Top View jebsib's Profile Search for other posts by jebsib
 
PopArchivist
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 30 June 2018
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 451
Posted: 13 January 2020 at 6:37pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

jebsib wrote:
While there have been coarse / vulgar hits for decades, does anyone know the
first commercial hits that actually had out-and-out swear words?   


A Boy Named Sue had no explicit version, just a clean release until the Live album it came from came out decades later unedited. It contained son-of-a-bitch in the lyrics censored. That was 1969.

If I recall the Isley Brothers Fight The Power contained the first true curse word "bullshit", which was censored out for the radio in the 70's but available on the LP Version.

There were other instances of changed lyrics like Lou Christie's Rhapsody In The Rain in the 60's, but if your talking about vulgar/offensive language, I can't recall any before the Isley Brothers hit.

Unless you want to count John Lennon's use of the N Word in his 1972 song, which due to its use of an offensive racial epithet and what was perceived as an inappropriate comparison of women's rights to the oppression of African-Americans, most radio stations in the US declined to play the record.

Either way if you want to discount Bitch go right ahead. Apparently radio was okay with playing Elton John's The Bitch Is Back and Neil Sedaka's Bad Blood without edits. Almost forgot 1976's Hurricane Part 1 by Bob Dylan as a special mention....

Edited by PopArchivist on 14 January 2020 at 11:18am
Back to Top View PopArchivist's Profile Search for other posts by PopArchivist
 
PopArchivist
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 30 June 2018
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 451
Posted: 13 January 2020 at 6:54pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

jebsib wrote:
This week's #1 song is Roddy Ricch's "The Box", currently unavailable
commercially in a Clean Version and jam-packed with expletives and N-Words.


The last time this happened was Eminem's Killshot in 2018. No clean version exists for it. If it is popular enough, Promo Only might issue an edit of it. Or it might make it to the next NOW cd. I can tell you that even if it isn't lossy I've personally been able to match up an explicit with a clean if need be.

I checked Tidal, Qobuz and 7Digital and they all have the explicit album track....
Back to Top View PopArchivist's Profile Search for other posts by PopArchivist
 
aaronk
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Online
Posts: 5646
Posted: 13 January 2020 at 7:42pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

“Money” by Pink Floyd was from 1973, and commercial copies also
contain the word “bullshit.”

__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
Back to Top View aaronk's Profile Search for other posts by aaronk Visit aaronk's Homepage
 
jebsib
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 06 April 2006
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 74
Posted: 14 January 2020 at 10:54am | IP Logged Quote jebsib

Amazing how the culture has shifted. How long before we get a #1 hit with one
of the "Big 2" words in the title?
Back to Top View jebsib's Profile Search for other posts by jebsib
 
eriejwg
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 10 June 2007
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2786
Posted: 14 January 2020 at 11:11am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Ironically, I emailed the programmer at Promo Only
yesterday about this song and the huge increase in spins
this week. He initially serviced to POOL the promo [clean]
version, then last night, they uploaded a PO Clean Edit.
Top Hits U.S.A. hasn't even serviced the song at all.

__________________
John Gallagher
John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment
Erie, PA
Back to Top View eriejwg's Profile Search for other posts by eriejwg Visit eriejwg's Homepage
 
PopArchivist
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 30 June 2018
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 451
Posted: 14 January 2020 at 11:21am | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

aaronk wrote:
“Money” by Pink Floyd was from 1973, and commercial copies also
contain the word “bullshit.”


Aaron,

Did radio back then even censor John Lennon's Woman is the N... Of The World? Or was Money in 1973 the first true censored top 40 hit?
Back to Top View PopArchivist's Profile Search for other posts by PopArchivist
 
eriejwg
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 10 June 2007
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2786
Posted: 14 January 2020 at 11:25am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

No radio station in my area played that John Lennon song
in 1972.

__________________
John Gallagher
John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment
Erie, PA
Back to Top View eriejwg's Profile Search for other posts by eriejwg Visit eriejwg's Homepage
 
Hykker
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 30 October 2007
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1142
Posted: 14 January 2020 at 2:22pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker

PopArchivist wrote:
Or was Money in 1973 the first
true censored top 40 hit?


As noted, it was only censored on the mono side of promo
copies. Stock copies and the stereo side of the promo
were left intact.

A couple censored songs from the early 60s...
"Greenback Dollar" - Kingston Trio ("damn" was replaced
with a guitar strum)
"My Boomerang Won't Come Back" - Charlie Drake (original
had the line "practiced until I was black in the face",
later issues replaced "black" with "blue")

eriejwg wrote:
No radio station in my area played that
John Lennon song
in 1972.


Nor mine. I'd guess most of its chart position came from
sales.
Back to Top View Hykker's Profile Search for other posts by Hykker
 
Paul Haney
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 01 April 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1186
Posted: 15 January 2020 at 5:51am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

jebsib wrote:
Amazing how the culture has shifted. How
long before we get a #1 hit with one
of the "Big 2" words in the title?


Well, Cee Lo Green got pretty close with "F**k You!"
(which did have a clean version "Forget You") and Pink had
"F**kin' Perfect", both of which peaked at #2 on the Hot
100 in 2011.
Back to Top View Paul Haney's Profile Search for other posts by Paul Haney
 
Paul Haney
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 01 April 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1186
Posted: 15 January 2020 at 5:52am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

eriejwg wrote:
No radio station in my area played that
John Lennon song in 1972.


There's not a single American radio station survey which
shows that song in the ARSA database.

Edited by Paul Haney on 15 January 2020 at 5:54am
Back to Top View Paul Haney's Profile Search for other posts by Paul Haney
 
PopArchivist
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 30 June 2018
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 451
Posted: 19 January 2020 at 12:02am | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

So before the era of numerous explicit hits began right around 1993 to chart on the top 40 and storm up the top 10, is there a definitive top 40 list of songs from 1955-1992 that have a clean radio edit and an explicit to match? I would be curious to see if I missed any.

__________________
"I'm a pop archivist, not a chart philosopher, I seek to listen, observe and document the chart position of music."
Back to Top View PopArchivist's Profile Search for other posts by PopArchivist
 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login
If you are not already registered you must first register

  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



This page was generated in 0.0586 seconds.