Top 40 Music on CD Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Top 40 Music On Compact Disc > Chat Board
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - O.T. Billy Joel - New York State Of Mind
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

O.T. Billy Joel - New York State Of Mind
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
AndrewChouffi View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 24 September 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 24 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: O.T. Billy Joel - New York State Of Mind
    Posted: 19 July 2019 at 7:52am
There were reputedly two different mixes of this popular
LP cut, but I can't find an alternate release.

Does anyone know the true story and can show me examples of any differences (if there are really two different versions)?

Thanks!

Andy
Back to Top
eric_a View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 29 June 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 0 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eric_a Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2019 at 9:32am
An alternate sax solo was introduced at some point. If
you know one solo, you'll recognize the distinction
right away.

I'd be curious if anyone knows the story. Did the new
one surface on the 1985 Greatest Hits package?
Back to Top
AndrewChouffi View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 24 September 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 24 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2019 at 1:16pm
That's also what I've been told. But
I can only find one version. Maybe
some one can point me to some samples
for differences?

Andy
Back to Top
eric_a View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 29 June 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 0 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eric_a Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 July 2019 at 4:19pm
Listen around 3:20 to hear the difference.

The Turnstiles solo starts with a few syncopated notes
Turnstiles
Version

The Greatest Hits version starts with a faster run.
Greatest Hits
version

There are also some clear differences in the coda. At
5:21, after "Cause I'm in", there's a sax fill on
Turnstiles but no sax on GH.

I did some reading on this earlier, and there may even
be a third studio version. Between Wikipedia, StevE
Hoffman boards, and Billy Joel fan boards, there's no
clear agreement on the facts but it may be on the quad
LP release. That said, it's still not clear to me as
to why they replaced the original solo.
Back to Top
AndrewChouffi View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 24 September 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 24 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 July 2019 at 6:28am
Thank you Eric!

Thanks to your samples, I found out what my problem was!

I own the 'Greatest Hits' CD & Vinyl; plus I own the 'Turnstiles' CD.

The issue is that I own the 1998 REMASTER of 'Turnstiles'.

The 1998 remaster I have is replaced with the 'Greatest Hits' version!!

I hate when reissued CDs quietly swap-out versions. In my world it's revisionist history...

Thanks again, Eric

Andy


Back to Top
Santi Paradoa View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 17 February 2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 26 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Santi Paradoa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2019 at 3:03pm
I'd never listened closely to both versions until now and you're correct about the two different versions/mixes. Great catch Andy and Eric.
Santi Paradoa

Miami, Florida
Back to Top
eriejwg View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 10 June 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 69 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2019 at 5:27pm
Is the original Turnstiles version available through a
Japanese pressing or import version perhaps?
John Gallagher
Erie, PA
John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth
Back to Top
Santi Paradoa View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 17 February 2009
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 26 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Santi Paradoa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2019 at 6:29pm
My CD of Turnstiles must not be the 1998 remaster because it has the original mix/version (Columbia 33848).
Santi Paradoa

Miami, Florida
Back to Top
David Pro View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 10 August 2020
Location: Chile
Status: Offline
Points: 3 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David Pro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2020 at 6:16am
There is a Japanese Billy Joel
compilation released in 1988 titled
Starbox which contains the
original version of "New York State
of Mind".

https://www.discogs.com/es/Billy-
Joel-Star-Box/release/13041255
Back to Top
LunarLaugh View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 13 February 2020
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 12 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LunarLaugh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2020 at 11:31am
I had the original mix on the MFSL vinyl editon of
"Turnstiles". Never stumbled upon a CD with it, though I
haven't really been actively seeking it.
Listen to The Lunar Laugh!
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.047 seconds.