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So some labels are clearly easy (Mono, Stereo) and some (45 version) (promo version) (radio edit) are obvious. But as one ventures into the last 12 years of music, a problem develops.
The 7 inch always referred to CD singles. But then starting in 2007 onward you get singles which are clearly digital downloads (I'll Stand By You by Carrie Underwood), American Idol singles etc all the way up to 2018 where the 7 inch title is no longer applicable and mostly every song is a digital download.
I ask because if you don't label it a 45 and you don't label it a 7 inch, what do you label it? [Digital Download] is an option, but not everything post 2007 was a digital download. I guess what I am saying is what do you call the last 10 years of songs? It was easy because you always had a 45 version until the late 80's and you always had a 7 inch until 10 years ago.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. I know it seems crazy, but I wanted to indicate in my collection that it was the go to recording for a song, the way a [45 version] or a [7 inch single] would.
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Starting with songs from the '90s, I label the versions exactly how they appear on the promo CD single. For instance:
Boyz II Men - End Of The Road (Pop Edit) [1992].wav
If a song version is non-described but different from the LP version, I simply use (single version). The lower case letters are an indicator to me that I labeled it that way. If a song version is officially called (Single Version), I capitalize the first letters of each word.
If the hit version of a song is the same as the LP, I don't put a version in the file name at all. For instance:
Ace Of Base - All That She Wants [1993].wav
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How to label music post 2006? How about "crap".
Just kidding, there's plenty of songs from the past 12
years that I like. Just not nearly as big a percentage as
from the previous eras.
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Paul Haney wrote:
How to label music post 2006? How about "crap".
Just kidding, there's plenty of songs from the past 12
years that I like. Just not nearly as big a percentage as
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I agree that the last 10 years especially have seen a shift in music that is not especially memorable or even listenable. But I collect all of the music regardless so I have that choice. I love Maroon 5, but I dislike Cardi B. I mean some people don't like the fact that Lucid Dreams samples a Sting song. I on the other hand love it. I dislike all the cursing though, I think that you can make a song sound great without throwing insults and curse words at people.
I don't think 20 songs from an album charting at once is cool at all, I think it just is a reflex reaction to this download now society that has developed. We accept ITUNES yet it gives us a product that is 80 percent inferior to lossless and that is okay (where I prefer to download FLAC which gives me the entire sound even if I have to pay more). We have SPOTIFY which I will never sign up for because I am selfish, I want to listen to what I want to listen to when I want it. That means owning a 512 GB Iphone so be it. Sometimes the new songs are good, sometimes they are crap. I can say that 2009, 2012 and 2016 produced some very memorable pop songs without all the crap we see in other years. There were not many bad songs in 2009 and the 2012 top 20 was more pop oriented. So every few years we get a few artists other than Drake who make it interesting.
On a side note, the Rap Devil and Killshot tracks show some level of creativity even though they have language. Eminem always seems to find a way to be relevant almost 20 years after he came on to the scene.
I think it was more that most Hot 100 releases are album releases now or special remixes (Maroon 5's Girl Like You for example) that are released digitally. Anyways enough about how I feel...
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Also, in the last 20 years, besides the album version, there can be 2 single versions (different versions on a CD single - say "pop version", "rock version", "AC edit"... - which really makes it hard to define one single version. I think "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing" and "Back For Good" may be 2 examples (although I'm sure there are others) where different stations played different versions on a CD single, or there were 2 different CD singles each with a different versions. So, in some case, it gets nearly impossible to define a version as the definitive "single version".
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Even going way back, I can't remember who it was (maybe Jim) but regarding Bonnie Pointer's "Heaven Must Have Sent You", about 55% of radio stations played the disco version and 45% played the original "Motown-sounding" version. In fact, Jim may have given one statistic for this song, and my friend Fred Bronson, who worked at Billboard Magazine (though not in 1979) may have told me another statistic. So when 2 versions are played a lot on the radio, neither of which is the album version, it does get complicated! I don't think it's fair to say the version that got played 55% of the time is the single version - because so many people perceived the other version as the single they heard on the radio. (And both versions of Bonnie Pointer were available as a single!) :)
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Up to the 2000s, I label single versions that are
different from the album version as [45 Version] whether
they are edited or mixed differently or not. In some
cases, i'll label something as [45 edit] or[45 mix]. This
is because I grew up in the vinyl age. I use "radio" and
"DJ" interchangeably.
I don't always label anything stereo unless there is a
commercial mono mix available. For mono, I always label
them as such unless that's all there is.
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