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TomDiehl1 wrote:
PopArchivist wrote:
For 1960's #1's so
far, Running Bear, The Twist, Alley-Oop,
Stay and Mr. Custer have no stereo
releases, they were all mono only. While
it might eventually spawn a different
thread, I thought it might be worth
discussing what top 40 hits never got a
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How do you handle songs on cd that are not
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If its an official released version, I still keep the mono but label the stereo what it is. In the case of rerecorded stereo new versions of a hit song that came out after the 45 release, that I won't collect.
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Guess the project kind of stalled out!
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We're counting on you to keep it alive! Unfortunately, I am nowhere near finished organizing my '60s CDs, and I'm not going to be much help until I get that project finished.
I did, however, come across a rare promo compilation CD last week called Unidisc Then, and it contains a few mono tracks. I was hoping "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond would be the hit mono single mix, but it sounds like they simply folded the stereo mix, unfortunately.
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I've been meaning to contribute a lot to it, since I
have a ton of '60s mono I've found on import CDs over
the years, but I'm just so busy lately. I'll try to sit
down and add a bunch of updates soon.
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I've been very busy lately as well. I will contribute
more in the near future.
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aaronk wrote:
We're counting on you to keep it alive! Unfortunately, I am nowhere near finished organizing my '60s CDs, and I'm not going to be much help until I get that project finished.
I did, however, come across a rare promo compilation CD last week called Unidisc Then, and it contains a few mono tracks. I was hoping "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond would be the hit mono single mix, but it sounds like they simply folded the stereo mix, unfortunately. |
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I can assure you by the end of the year the 1960-1964 period will be a lot more filled in then it is now. Just like all of you, been busy. But I also added a new wrinkle by putting the stereo in the same folder where the version is available.
While stereo did not exist then, to ignore it is no better then ignoring edited versions of songs or clean radio edits which are drastically changed from the dirty version. Plus it is quite interesting to hear what sounds better in mono vs what is out in stereo.
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Update:
For those curious, it has been tedious but I focused first on assembling the top 10 from 1955-1960 completely in mono from CD source only. If anyone on the board specifically knows an import or possible source for the mono on CD for what I am missing.
1958
Jimmie Rodgers - Are You Really Mine (2:24)- Every version available for download is not the actual 45 running time. I tracked down a foreign import that is arriving Monday that appears to match the time. If that fails, a 45 in mint will have to be obtained.
Connie Francis - Frankie (1959) 2:30 - Every version available on CD or for download is there Stereo. There appears no known CD mono source for this song available, even as an import. A 45 in mint most likely will have to be obtained.
Floyd Cramer - Last Date (1960) 2:25- Every version available on CD is in stereo.
Jim Reeves - He'll Have To Go (1960) 2:18- Every version available on CD is in stereo.
Sam Cooke - Chain Gang (1960) 2:35 - Trouble locating the Complete Singles. Is this it? That's the one the mono list says has the 45 in mono.
https://www.discogs.com/Sam-Cooke-The-Complete-Singles-1956- 1962/release/9224467
If anyone has any suggestions, feel free to present them. I still have to go through chart positions 61-94 for the 1960 top 10 but this is where I stand right now.
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Floyd Cramer/Last Date. Fold down the Stereo CD, as this
was engineered by Bill Porter (who balanced his mixes to
fold down) And that is what your Mono 45 will be.
Same thing for Jim Reeves/He'll Have To Go applies.
Edited by KentT on 22 November 2018 at 9:05am
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PopArchivist wrote:
Aaron,
If you would grant me access, I would appreciate it.
For 1960 I could not find the following 45's on CD in their original
mono domestically. If you know of where they are internationally
(if at all) kindly share.
Elvis- Are You Lonesome Tonight?
Everly Brothers-Cathy's Clown
Elvis- Stuck On You
Connie Francis- My Heart Has A Mind of Its Own
Connie Francis-Everybody's Somebody's Fool
Brian Hyland- Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polkadot Bikini
Floyd Cramer-Last Date
Sam Cooke- Chain Gang
Roy Orbison- Only The Lonely
Jimmy Jones- Good Timin'
Johnny Horton- Sink The Bismark
Jeanne Black-He'll Have To Stay
Brenda Lee- Sweet Nothin's
Dina Washington- Baby (You've Got What It Takes)
Lolita-Sailor You Home is the Sea
Browns-The Old Lamlighter
Brenda Lee-That's All You Gotta Do
Conway Twitty-Lonely Blue Boy
Connie Francis-Many Years Ago
Ray Peterson-Tell Laura I Love Her
The Everly Brothers- So Sad (To Watch A Good Love Go Bad)
Brook Benton-Kiddio
Brook Benton- A Rockin Good Way
Bob Luman-Let's Think About Living
Steve Lawrence-Footsteps
The Platters-Harbor Lights
John Burnette-You're Sixteen
Connie Francis-Mama
Steve Lawrence-Pretty Blue Eyes
Roy Orbison-Blue Angel
Little Dippers-Forever
Neil Sedaka-Stairway to Heaven
Ferrante & Teicher- Theme from the Apartment
Anita Bryant- In My Little Corner of the World
The sheet needs to incorporate a radio edit for El Paso which is
entirely mono, which I have. Unsure of what CD it came off of,
might have been an import.
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Based on PopArchivist's earlier post, I can add the following info
for the sources I've used for my collection for 1960.
The majority of the CD sources are public domain collections
from Europe (or UK) so the quality can vary. That Elvis "Mono
Masters" is a multi-disc bootleg set in exceptional quality.
If this is useful, I'll ask for editing access to the excel file and can
add this plus more for the other years.
I have these discs (or files from the discs & would definitely re-
confirm the mono content before adding to the file.
Anita Bryant - In My Little Corner of the World - 45
Bob Luman - Let's Think About Living - Grooving With The
Grim Reaper
Brenda Lee - Sweet Nothin's - 45
Brenda Lee - That's All You Gotta Do - The EP Collection
Brian Hyland - Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini -
The Very Best Of
Brook Benton - A Rockin Good Way - American Music Library -
The Hits Of 1960
Brook Benton - Kiddio - 45
Browns - The Old Lamlighter - America's Greatest Hits - 1960
Vol. 1
Connie Francis - My Heart Has A Mind of Its Own - Lipstick On
Your Collar: The Collection
Connie Francis - Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Lipstick On
Your Collar: The Collection
Connie Francis - Mama - Lipstick On Your Collar: The
Collection
Connie Francis - Many Years Ago - 1961 British Hit Parade -
Part 1
Conway Twitty - Lonely Blue Boy - American Music Library -
The Hits Of 1960
Dina Washington - Baby (You've Got What It Takes) - American
Music Library - The Hits Of 1960
Elvis Presley- Are You Lonesome Tonight? - The Mono Masters
Everly Brothers - So Sad (To Watch A Good Love Go Bad) - 45
Ferrante & Teicher - Theme from the Apartment - Sounds Of
The Sixties - 1960 - Memories
Floyd Cramer - Last Date - 45
Jeanne Black - He'll Have To Stay - You're The Reason: 30
One Hit Wonders: US Country & Western
Jimmy Jones - Good Timin' - Radio Gold Volume 5
Johnny Horton - Sink The Bismark - American Music Library -
The Hits Of 1960
Little Dippers - Forever - American Music Library - The Hits Of
1960
Lolita - Sailor You Home is the Sea - Hey! Look What I Found
Vol. 3
Marty Robbins - El Paso (edit) - Country Number Ones Of The
50s
Neil Sedaka - Stairway to Heaven - The Golden Age Of Rock
'n' Roll 1960
Platters - Harbor Lights - 45
Ray Peterson - Tell Laura I Love Her - American Music Library
- The Hits Of 1960
Steve Lawrence - Footsteps - 45
Steve Lawrence - Pretty Blue Eyes - 45
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