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Posted: 24 July 2019 at 10:28pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

"Jammin" is another 45 I have on order, but it hasn't yet arrived. I agree with you that the YT video of the 45 playing appears to match the original CD pressing of Legend. I'll let you know when I get my copy which mix it contains.

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Posted: 25 July 2019 at 10:06am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Aaron,

I had an email conversation with Mark Matthews about this
song. After some sleuthing, he determined the 45 playing
on YouTube that I posted is actually a Canadian 45
which features the mix from the original pressing of
Legend. The U.S. 45 actually matches the Diament
pressing of Legend so it appears the Canadian 45
has the UK mix of Jamming.

The UK mix is probably a completely different recording.

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Posted: 25 July 2019 at 12:15pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Thanks for the update, John. Again, once mine arrives, I'll post the details. As we all know, there are many instances when two different pressings exist with different mixes on each.

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Posted: 29 July 2019 at 9:23pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

My "Jamming" 45 just arrived, but it's a promo copy. This is an early fade of the LP version, which coincides with Mark's stock copy. It appears that the original Legend CD must have the UK single mix.

I also received "I Shot The Sheriff," which is an early fade of the LP version. Fading from 2:43 to 2:57 will give you the proper 45 length. The last thing I can barely hear at the tail end of the fade is Bob singing "yeah."

The third 45 I received today is "Waiting In Vain," which is also a promo copy that plays the same version on both sides. This is a unique mix and matches a dub of the stock 45 that I have. There is additional percussion and reverb on the drums, and as far as I can tell, this mix has never made it to CD. It's a very narrow mix and almost sounds mono.

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Posted: 29 July 2019 at 10:59pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Aaron, thanks for the updates. Looks like I'll have to
order a 45 for Waiting In Vain myself and attempt to fade
I Shot The Sheriff early.

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Posted: 30 July 2019 at 10:24pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

RE: "Jamming" .... the reason I decided the Youtube video
is a Canadian pressing is the label design. Even though
the record is spinning you can see the title appears at
the top. U.S. pressings have the title at the bottom and
I'm willing to bet so does Aaron's promo 45.

At first I thought the Canadian 45 had yet another
different mix but after examining it, I found it is the
same mix as the UK 45 and the early CD edition of
"Legend." And yes I can confirm the early "Legend" is the
UK 45 mix. I have a dub of the UK 45.
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Posted: 07 August 2019 at 1:46pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I received the other 45s I was waiting on, and I have updated the original post, as well as reformatted it for easier reading.

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Posted: 07 August 2019 at 6:30pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Thank you for the added detective work. Aaron and Mark.

I just listened to "Stir It Up" on a deluxe edition of
Catch A Fire and the mix is much narrower on that
album than on the original version of Legend. On
Legend, it also has some added reverb.

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Posted: 08 August 2019 at 8:08am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Which version were you listening to? On the 2-disc album on Spotify, the original album version is on disc 2. The version on disc 1 is labeled "Jamaican Version" and is a drastically different mix.

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Posted: 08 August 2019 at 9:58am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

It was on Disc 1, track 2. Guess that is actually the
Jamaican Version. Never mind lol.

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Posted: 12 September 2020 at 4:03pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

For quite a while, I've been wanting a 1980s pressing of Legend on vinyl, as it's one of my all-time favorite albums. It showed up today in the mail, and it's a 1986 club issue (Columbia House). "No Woman, No Cry" on this LP is a presumably '80s-era remix of the original Natty Dread LP recording. This version has an '80s sounding drum machine when compared to the original, non-live LP recording. It definitely is NOT the version that is on the CRC/Columbia House CD version, as I also have that and it contains the original live single edit. As I write this, yet ANOTHER crazy '80s-sounding re-recording just came on: "Buffalo Soldier." This one sounds like a complete re-recording. *mind blown*

If I spot any other differences, I'll report them.

Edited by aaronk on 12 September 2020 at 4:06pm


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Posted: 12 September 2020 at 4:25pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Wow.

"One Love/People Get Ready" is the same remixed version that appears on the '80s-era CRC/Columbia House CD pressing.
"Waiting In Vain" is a remixed version that does not appear on the CRC/Columbia House CD pressing. It retains the original vocal take of the 1977 LP version but adds '80s-sounding instrumentation.
"Exodus" is completely re-recorded with '80s-sounding instrumentation and a vocal take that is different from the 1977 Exodus LP version.

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Posted: 13 September 2020 at 6:16am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To Aaron:

Is your US vinyl pressing the the same as mine
(mentioned upthread) that has 5 mixes labeled as by Eric
"E.T." Thorngren?

Or is it another edition I'm unaware of (mine was a
first-pressing promo).

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Posted: 13 September 2020 at 9:26am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Andy, it must be. I had forgotten all about your post from two years ago, but I just went back and re-read it. Yes, these must be the Eric Thorngren remixes. The copy I have is still in the original shrink, and I didn't want to remove the shrink to look for the credits.

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Posted: 15 September 2020 at 7:04am | IP Logged Quote Ringmaster_D

If I'm not mistaken I think the 2002 2 CD deluxe edition
of Legend contains all these remixes (and more) on the
second disc. I don't own it so I can't confirm that they
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Posted: 15 September 2020 at 7:11am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I just ordered it, Dave. If anyone is interested in me comparing the vinyl to the CD, I'm happy to do so once it arrives.

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Posted: 15 September 2020 at 11:23am | IP Logged Quote Ringmaster_D

aaronk wrote:
I just ordered it, Dave. If anyone is
interested in me comparing the vinyl to the CD, I'm happy
to do so once it arrives.

Yes, I would be very interested to see your comparison.
I had a buddy who heard my CD after owning the vinyl and
told me that the CD sounded "wrong" to him. Now I know
why. I haven't heard the remixes, but from your
descriptions they sound like abominations to me. :)

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LEGEND Deluxe Edition
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Edited by LunarLaugh on 15 September 2020 at 1:09pm


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Posted: 17 August 2021 at 5:06pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Revisiting this, I have a dub of what's labeled as a U.S.
45 version of "Exodus" that runs 4:00 and has much less
reverb on the intro that the copy I have of the song Exodus
on the 1984 pressing of Legend. The file on Legend runs
4:18.

Is the 4:00 45 version available digitally?

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Posted: 17 August 2021 at 7:16pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

John, I can no longer find the YouTube dub of the US 45 I used for my comparison, but I can say for sure that the dub you're listening to has much less reverb for one reason only: it has some very heavy noise reduction applied. I'm not talking about modern-day NR; this is the same type of Dolby NR that was discussed in the "Puttin' On The Ritz" thread. That entire dub sounds incredibly muffled from start to finish, but it's the same mix as the 4:18 version. There is also an editing difference near the end. I wonder if more than one US pressing exists with different versions. Still, I can't believe Island Records would put out an official 45 that sounds as bad as this.

Edited by aaronk on 18 August 2021 at 6:40am


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