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Posted: 05 July 2018 at 11:50pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

After doing some comparisons between the original CD issue of Legend and the Barry Diament mastered CD from 1992, I noticed there appear to be several single edits and mixes on the original disc. I have recently acquired several of these 45s, and my findings are as follows.

Original CD pressing contains:
1. Is This Love 3:54 - UK single mix
identifiable by guitar overdub after the first line of the song; US 45 uses the LP mix

2. No Woman No Cry 4:04 - US single edit but longer fade
edit on intro matches B-side of "Jamming" promo 45 (printed 3:57 & actual 3:58) but 45 fades earlier than CD; 1977 "Jamming" stock 45 also has printed 3:57 version of "No Woman No Cry" on B-side, which most likely matches printed 3:57 stock 45 of 1975 issue

3. Could You Be Loved 3:35 - US single mix
identifiable by guitar intro, which has a slap delay and no reverb on guitar (LP version has no delay but reverb on guitar)

4. Three Little Birds 3:00 - LP version
same mix as Diament CD; not issued as a single in 1977, but issued on 7" in the UK in 1980

5. Buffalo Soldier 2:44 - US single edit
exactly matches the 1983 US promo 45 (printed 2:45; actual 2:43), which is likely the same as the 2:45 (printed) stock 45

6. Get Up Stand Up 3:15 - LP version & presumed 45 version
same mix as Diament CD; I do not have the 1973 45, which has a printed time of 3:15; presumably, the 45 has the LP mix

7. Stir It Up 3:39 - Legend edit of Catch A Fire LP version
not issued as a 45 in 1973, but an earlier studio version from 1967 was issued on 45 in the UK, as well as a live recording from 1978 in some non-US countries

8. One Love / People Get Ready 2:52 - presumed 1984 remix
percussion has a LOT of reverb vs. the Diament CD; sounds like an '80s era remix

9. I Shot The Sheriff 3:48 - early fade of LP version
unique to the original Legend CD; US 45 runs 2:57 and is an even earlier fade of the LP version

10. Waiting In Vain 4:10 - LP version
missing the count off, but otherwise the same mix as Diament CD; 45 has a unique mix that is not on CD (additional percussion, a small amount of reverb added to drums, shorter run time of 3:29)

11. Redemption Song 3:47 - LP version & presumed 45 version
same mix as Diament CD; I do not own the original 45 to verify, but printed time is 3:45 and likely matches the LP

12. Satisfy My Soul 3:53 - presumed UK single edit
I don't have the 45 to verify, but printed time is 3:50; not originally issued on 45 in US

13. Exodus 4:18 - neither 45 nor LP version
re-edit of LP version in an attempt to match UK single version, but there is an incorrect edit toward the end before the fadeout

14. Jamming 3:17 - UK single mix
several mix differences and additional background vocals on fade out (does not end cold like LP mix); US 45 has an early fade of the LP mix and runs 3:20

Edited by aaronk on 24 August 2021 at 11:05pm


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Posted: 06 July 2018 at 4:07am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Great catch, Aaron,

After all these years of owning this CD, I realized I have
the Barry Diament version. Everything online appears to be
the same version.

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Posted: 06 July 2018 at 6:22am | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Is the original compact disc dated 1984? That's the one I have.

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Posted: 06 July 2018 at 8:15am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Yes, the original has a 1984 copyright date and according to Discogs was released on CD in the US in 1986. I'm not sure who did the mastering on it, but this is the one with the single versions. In 1992, Barry Diament was hired to remaster the CD, and he asked the label if he could use the original LP masters for the tracks. Island Records approved, so many CD releases since then have contained the LP versions.

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Posted: 07 July 2018 at 6:07am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

I have only the Barry Diament CD and the first-pressing promo vinyl.

The vinyl had five remixes by renown engineer Eric 'E.T.' Thorngren.


Did any CD pressings have these remixes?


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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 12:32pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvQYA9LPx8

Stir It Up on Legend matches this.

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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 12:43pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agjhEh4eDIU

This is the 45 dub of both the A and B sides of the 45.
Run time of I Shot The Sheriff matches Legend.

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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 12:57pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjZixAuRaCg

Here is the Exodus 45. Matches Legend.

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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 1:33pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

AndrewChouffi wrote:
I have only the Barry Diament CD and the first-pressing promo vinyl.

The vinyl had five remixes by renown engineer Eric 'E.T.' Thorngren.


Did any CD pressings have these remixes?


Andy

I skimmed through the credits of this CD release https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Marley-The-Wailers-Legend-The-Be st-Of-Bob-Marley-The-Wailers/release/8105122 and didn't see any tracks credited with a remix by Eric E.T. Thorngren. Maybe the CD was different?

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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 1:36pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

eriejwg wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agjhEh4eDIU

This is the 45 dub of both the A and B sides of the 45.
Run time of I Shot The Sheriff matches Legend.

This is a reissue 7" from 2005. The original from 1974 has "Put It On" as the B-side.

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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 1:40pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

eriejwg wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvQYA9LPx8

Stir It Up on Legend matches this.

The record playing is the 2009 re-issue LP of "Legend." https://www.discogs.com/Bob-Marley-The-Wailers-Legend-The-Be st-Of-Bob-Marley-The-Wailers/release/11159352

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eriejwg wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjZixAuRaCg

Here is the Exodus 45. Matches Legend.

Nice find! I will edit my post above.

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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 2:58pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

"Could You Be Loved" is indeed the U.S. 45 Mix. This was
an edit of the 1980 12" single mix (except for 2 beats
that had to be lifted from the 45).

"Jamming" on this earlier release is actually the original
U.K. 45 mix. The 1977 U.S. 45 mix is the common mix that
appears on later pressings of "Legend" and current digital
versions. The only difference is the 45 faded to (3:20)
but on "Legend" it runs (3:32) and ends cold.

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Posted: 08 July 2018 at 4:45pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Thanks for that info, Mark! I'll update my post above.

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Posted: 24 July 2019 at 2:22pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I recently came across a note on Discogs that said the US 45 of "Is This Love" uses the LP mix. Given the conflicting information, I went ahead and ordered a copy of this 45, along with five other Bob Marley US 45s. "Is This Love" is the first one to arrive in the mail, and Discogs is correct. The US 45 has the LP mix, as found on the Diament 1992 CD mastering and the 2002 CD mastering done by Ted Jensen.

As soon as the other 45s arrive, I will have further updating to do in my original post. The version of "Is This Love" with the guitar overdub, which is found on the original CD pressing of Legend, definitely appears on the UK 45. I was able to confirm this thanks to a video of the 45 playing on YouTube.

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Posted: 24 July 2019 at 8:39pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Thanks for the heads up, Aaron. I replaced the original
Legend release with the Lp version from Kaya
which I believe was the original LP it was from.

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Posted: 24 July 2019 at 9:00pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Just noticed Mark's earlier post about "Jamming." Found a
45 on YouTube and matched the fade.

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Posted: 24 July 2019 at 9:08pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Looks like I spoke to soon. I tried to fade Jamming to
match a U.S. 45 on YouTube and the two files don't match
at the fade point of the 45. Could there have been an edit
instead of a fade?

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Posted: 24 July 2019 at 9:28pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ZJDThyZAw

That's the 45 for Jamming. Anyone want to chime in?

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Posted: 24 July 2019 at 9:34pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Ok, sorry to be posting so much tonight, but the original
release of Legend matches the 45 perfectly, not the
later Barry Diament CD version.


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