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Posted: 08 January 2017 at 8:31pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

Hi all,

Are we up for a challenge? I thought I would put this out to this board, as it
is here (and BSN) that I would likely get the most answers (some of my
previous posts on the topic have indeed been answered).

In my quest to feature the original 45 label (or picture sleeve) (those that
are the 45 version) and the original LP sleeve (for “LP versions”) for my
iTunes library files, I have actually tried to determine the first stereo LP
appearance for the latter, and not just use an LP with an “e” version. I
believe I have correctly ascertained most of them, using various online
sources such as BSN, Discogs, here, etc., but there are still a few that
elude me. I wonder if anyone here knows on what LP (or CD, if in the CD
era) the first (true) stereo appearance of the following are:

1957     Ames Brothers, The     Melodie D'Amour
1957     Ames Brothers, The     Tammy
1958     Ames Brothers, The     Pussy Cat
1958     Andy Williams        &nbs p;    Are You Sincere
1958     Betty Johnson          ;  Dream
1958     Doris Day         &nb sp;    Teacher's Pet
1958     Jamies, The         &nb sp;    Summertime, Summertime
1958     Johnny Mathis            A Certain Smile
1958     Johnny Mathis            Come To Me
1958     Lou Monte         & nbsp;     Lazy Mary (Luna Mezzo Mare)
1958     Marty Robbins          ;  Just Married
1958     Marty Robbins          ;  She Was Only Seventeen (He Was One
Year More)
1958     Marty Robbins          ;  The Story Of My Life
1958     Patti Page         &n bsp;     Left Right Out Of Your Heart (Hi Lee Hi
Lo
Hi Lup Up, Up)
1958     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Crazy Love
1958     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Just Young
1958     Platters, The         &nb sp;    Helpless
1958     Playmates, The         &nb sp;Beep Beep
1958     Roy Hamilton        &nbs p;    Don't Let Go
1959     Big Jay McNeely & Band     There Is Something On Your Mind
1959     Brook   Ben ton          &nbs p;     This Time Of The Year
1959     Buddy Holly         & nbsp;     Crying, Waiting, Hoping
1959     Clovers, The         &nb sp;    Love Potion No. 9 (45 version)
1959     Fats   Domi no          &nbs p;     When The Saints Go Marching In
1959     Pat Boone         & nbsp;     Good Rockin' Tonight
1959     Pat Boone         & nbsp;     With The Wind And The Rain In Your Hair
1959     Platters, The         &nb sp;    Enchanted
1959     Ray Price         & nbsp;     Heartaches By The Number
1959     Skip & Flip         &n bsp;     It Was I
1960     Bobby Freeman          ;  (I Do The) Shimmy Shimmy
1960     Johnny & The Hurricanes     Beatnik Fly
1960     Little Willie John        Sleep
1960     Olympics, The         &nb sp;(Baby) Hully Gully
1960     Paradons, The         &nb sp;Diamonds And Pearls
1960     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     My Home Town
1960     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Something Happened
1961     Danny Williams        Moon River
1961     Donays, The         &nb sp;    Devil In His Heart
1961     Echoes, The         &nb sp;    Baby Blue
1961     Everly Brothers, The     Ebony Eyes
1961     Freddy King         &n bsp;     Hide Away
1961     Halos, The         &nb sp;    "Nag"
1961     James   Dar ren          &nbs p;     Goodbye Cruel World
1961     Jive Five, The         &nb sp;    My True Story
1961     Jørgen Ingmann & His Guitar     Anna
1961     Maxine Brown         & nbsp;     Funny (stereo remake)
1961     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Cinderella
1961     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Dance On Little Girl
1961     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Kissin' On The Phone
1961     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Tonight My Love, Tonight
1961     Sam Cooke         & nbsp;     That's It-I Quit-I'm Movin' On
1962     Arthur Alexander        &nb sp; Anna (Go To Him)
1962     Arthur Alexander        &nb sp; You Better Move On (stereo remake)
1962     Barbara Lynn         &n bsp;     You'll Lose A Good Thing
1962     Bobby Bland         & nbsp;     Turn On Your Love Light
1962     Bobby Darin         & nbsp;     If A Man Answers
1962     Charlie Drake         & nbsp;     My Boomerang Won't Come Back
1962     Ernie Maresca          ;       Shout! Shout! (Knock Yourself Out)
1962     Frank   Ifi eld          &nbs p;     I Remember You (stereo remake)
1962     Gary (U.S.) Bonds        Dear Lady Twist
1962     Isley Brothers, The         &nb sp;Twistin' With Linda
1962     Joe   Dowel l          &nbs p;     Little Red Rented Rowboat
1962     Paul Anka         &n bsp;     Eso Beso (That Kiss!)
1962     Shelley Fabares          ;  Johnny Angel
1963     Dion   &nbs p;         &nbs p; Drip Drop
1963     Moments, The         &nb sp;Walk Right In
1963     Ray Barretto        &nbs p;    El Watusi
1963     Rolf   Harr is          &nbs p;     Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport
1963     Sam Cooke         & nbsp;     Frankie And Johnny
1963     Tommy Hunt         &n bsp;     I Am A Witness
1964     4 Seasons, The         &nb sp;Big Man In Town
1964     4 Seasons, The         &nb sp;Save It For Me
1964     Billy J. Kramer With The Dakotas     From A Window
1964     Bruce & Terry         & nbsp;     Summer Means Fun
1964     Chuck Berry         & nbsp;     Nadine (Is It You?)
1964     Dave Berry         & nbsp;     My Baby Left Me
1964     Dave Berry         & nbsp;     The Crying Game
1964     Dean & Jean         &n bsp;     Hey Dean, Hey Jean
1964     Dean & Jean         &n bsp;     Tra La La La Suzy
1964     Gestures, The         &nb sp;    Run, Run, Run
1964     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Here I Go Again
1964     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Just One Look
1964     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    We're Through
1964     Manfred Mann        Do Wah Diddy Diddy
1964     Swinging Blue Jeans, The     Good Golly Miss Molly
1964     Swinging Blue Jeans, The     Hippy Hippy Shake
1964     Swinging Blue Jeans, The     You're No Good
1965     Billy J. Kramer With The Dakotas     Trains And Boats And Planes
1965     Brenda Holloway        Operator
1965     Castaways, The         &nb sp;Liar, Liar
1965     Cher   &nbs p;         &nbs p; All I Really Want To Do
1965     Dave Clark Five, The     Reelin' And Rockin'
1965     Donovan   & nbsp;         & nbsp;    Universal Soldier
1965     Freddie & The Dreamers     Do The Freddie
1965     Freddie & The Dreamers     I'm Telling You Now
1965     Freddie & The Dreamers     You Were Made For Me
1965     Gene   Pitn ey          &nbs p;     Last Chance To Turn Around
1965     Georgie Fame & The Blue Flames     Yeh, Yeh
1965     Glen Campbell        The Universal Soldier
1965     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    I'm Alive
1965     Jackie DeShannon        &nb sp; What The World Needs Now Is Love
1965     Jackie Trent         & nbsp;     Where Are You Now
1965     Larks, The         &nb sp;    The Jerk
1965     Manfred Mann        Come Tomorrow
1965     Manfred Mann        If You Gotta Go, Go Now
1965     Manfred Mann        Oh No Not My Baby
1965     Marianne Faithfull        &nb sp; Come And Stay With Me
1965     Marianne Faithfull        &nb sp; This Little Bird
1965     Marty Robbins          ;  Ribbon Of Darkness
1965     Newbeats, The         &nb sp;Break Away (From That Boy)
1965     O'Jays, The         &nb sp;    Lipstick Traces (On A Cigarette)
1965     Sandie Shaw         &n bsp;     Long Live Love
1965     Seekers, The         &nb sp;    The Carnival Is Over
1965     Velvelettes, The         &nb sp;He Was Really Sayin' Somethin'
1965     Zombies, The         &nb sp;    I Love You
1966     Bobby Fuller Four        Love's Made A Fool Of You
1966     Cher   &nbs p;         &nbs p; Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)
1966     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Bus Stop
1966     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Look Through Any Window
1966     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Stop Stop Stop
1966     Jan & Dean         &n bsp;     Fiddle Around
1966     Joe Tex         &nb sp;         S.Y .S.L.J.F.M. (The Letter Song)
1966     Lou Christie        &nbs p;    Outside The Gates Of Heaven
1966     Overlanders, The         &nb sp;Michele
1966     Verdelle Smith        Tar And Cement (Il Ragazzo Della Via
Gluck)
1966     Walker Bros., The         &nb sp;The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine
(Anymore)
1967     Flower Pot Men, The     Let's Go To San Francisco
1967     Frankie Valli         & nbsp;     I Make A Fool Of Myself
1967     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Carrie-Anne
1967     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    On A Carousel
1967     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Pay You Back With Interest
1967     Sagittarius  &nb sp;         &nb sp; My World Fell Down
1967     Seekers, The         &nb sp;    Morningtown Ride
1967     Simon Dupree & The Big Sound     Kites
1968     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Do The Best You Can
1968     Hollies, The         &nb sp;    Listen To Me
1968     Lulu   &nbs p;         &nbs p;      Me, The Peaceful Heart
1968     Montanas, The         &nb sp;You've Got To Be Loved
1968     Sandpebbles, The         &nb sp;Love Power
1968     Status Quo, The         &nb sp;Pictures Of Matchstick Men
1972     Moody Blues, The         &nb sp;Nights In White Satin
1972     R. Dean Taylor            Taos New Mexico

Please, if you are not sure about a source, please indicate so (I am hoping
for verified information, but conjecture is also ok as long as it is indicated
so). Note that my list contains several non-US-but-British hits and some
not-top 40 hits as well. Also, I am not looking for only the first US
appearance in stereo.

[edit] Please forgive the "&nb sp;" for I do not know where it is coming from
as it is not in my source file nor can I eliminate it when I edit the post!

Edited by davidclark on 08 January 2017 at 9:56pm


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Posted: 09 January 2017 at 12:13am | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

1964 Gestures, The - "Run, Run, Run"
      First stereo appearance: Soma 1501 reissue 45 (mid '70s) (UPDATE: Not correct, as per Andy's post below.)     

1965 Castaways, The - "Liar, Liar"
      First stereo appearance: Soma 1469 reissue 45 (mid '70s)

Both tracks simultaneously made their LP debut on the 1965 V.A. comp. The Big Hits Of Mid-America Volume Two (Soma 1246), but this album was issued only in mono.

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Posted: 09 January 2017 at 5:52am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To Yah Shure:

Did the Soma 1469 stereo reissue 45 of "Liar, Liar" come out before 'Oldies But Goodies Vol. 9'? That LP had the stereo version and I think came out in about 1973.

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Posted: 09 January 2017 at 11:06am | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

AndrewChouffi wrote:
Did the Soma 1469 stereo reissue 45 of "Liar, Liar" come out before 'Oldies But Goodies Vol. 9'? That LP had the stereo version and I think came out in about 1973.


Andy, Original Sound's mono and stereo versions of Oldies But Goodies Vol. 9 were first released on LP in October, 1968, and I have neither. Aside from a mono cutout of Vol. 1, my sole (1971) purchase in the series issued on LP was the stereo Vol. 6, with its notorious ping-ponged panning of mono tracks, used either to simulate a stereo effect or induce seasickness. Does "Liar, Liar" appear in true stereo on the original 1968 issue of the Vol. 9 LP? (These would have been pressed by Capitol, with "10/68" printed in the lower left corner of the back cover.)

If it does, then that would be its first appearance in true stereo of which I'm aware. Soma's '64-'67 rock roster was relegated to singles-only releases, aside from the two V.A. comps mentioned earlier. The first Soma recording from that period to appear in true stereo was the Del Counts' 1967 Upper Midwest hit, "What Is The Reason," which turned up on the KDWB's 21 All-Time Dream Hits compilation LP on the Hollywood-based Take 6 label in 1968. Being that there were ten other tracks shoehorned onto side 2, the sound quality was predictably poor.
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David,
I wish I still had info for some of those that first appeared on early 60's era V/A comps. A friend of mine owned just about all of them but sadly sold them years ago once the songs made it to CD. One example was "Diamonds And Pearls" .. it was a V/A from about 1962 and was also the first appearance of the guitar intro.

I can tell for sure that the following songs never appeared in stereo on vinyl, they were all mixed to stereo in the CD era. I included who created the mix (to the best of my knowledge):
"Melodie D'Amour" "Lazy Mary" (Ron Furmanek, Nipper CD) "Love Potion #9" (45 edit, unsure who made it)
"Nag" (Tom Moulton)
"Yeh Yeh" (Marty Wekser)
"Baby Blue" (Walter DeVenne)

I see two songs in your list that I don't recall hearing in stereo, can you tell me where these appear that way?
Montanas - "You Got To Be Loved"
Velvelettes - "He Was Really Sayin' Something"

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Posted: 09 January 2017 at 5:44pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To Yah Shure:

I checked my LP library and I own two stereo copies of 'Oldies But Goodies Vol. 9'.

I looked at the back cover; one has 10/68 printed, the other 9/71.

Both have the true stereo "Liar, Liar".

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MMathews wrote:

I see two songs in your list that I don't recall hearing
in stereo, can you tell me where these appear that way?
Montanas - "You Got To Be Loved"


It's in stereo on Dick Bartley's Collectors Essentials of
the 60s CD.
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Posted: 09 January 2017 at 6:18pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To Mark Matthews:

I'm not sure that Marty Wekser mixed Georgie Fame's "Yeh, Yeh".

I believe it first surfaced in approx. 1998 on an import CD (and it might have been a previously suppressed original stereo period piece mix, I'm not sure).

Anyone know for sure?

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Ah, thanks Hykker! Of course I have that Varese Cd and forgot all about it.
Re: Yeh Yeh, I will check on that. To my knowledge the first stereo appearance was an early-2000's CD, and I read that Marty mixed it in the BSN forum.

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Andy, thanks for confirming that "Liar, Liar" was, indeed, in true stereo on Oldies But Goodies Vol. 9. This could turn into a fascinating "I did not know that!" thread. It already has for me. ;) In the meantime:

1967 Seekers, The - "Morningtown Ride"
      
      The first stereo appearance seems to be on the 1967 Capitol Star Line The Best Of The Seekers LP. My copy shows "stereo" and catalog # ST 2746 on the album jacket, but the record itself (red/white target Star Line label) states "Duophonic" with catalog # DT-2746.

The truth is in the playing: three tracks are in true stereo: "Turn, Turn, Turn," "We're Moving On" and "Morningtown Ride", the latter being the hit 1966 UK/1967 US single version.

Alas, "The Carnival Is Over" and the remaining tracks were all banished to Duophonic City on this LP.       

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Thanks so much for the info guys - please keep it coming!

Thought I’d chime in and comment on a few:

Regarding Liar, Liar, I can only imagine being old enough in 1968 (I was 7) to
buy “Oldies But Goodies Vol. 9” and hear the song in stereo for the first
time! I know how it feels to have discovered a first time stereo song in the
late LP/early CD era (one of the first was when Dick Bartley played “(I Can't
Get No) Satisfaction” on his Solid Gold Saturday Night program, and I heard
stereo! I was floored!!). Then came the quest to track it down (which I soon
did).

Anyway, regarding Velvelettes - He Was Really Sayin' Somethin', it is stereo
on 2005 Rhino VA CD "One Kiss Can Lead to Another: Girl Group Sounds
Lost and Found”. As far as I can tell, it is the hit 45.


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AndrewChouffi wrote:
To Mark Matthews:
I'm not sure that Marty Wekser mixed Georgie Fame's "Yeh,
Yeh".
I believe it first surfaced in approx. 1998 on an import
CD (and it might have been a previously suppressed
original stereo period piece mix, I'm not sure).
Anyone know for sure?
Andy


Andy, you are correct, Andy B. at BSN researched this for
me. The stereo mix did indeed debut in a 1998 Universal
UK Georgie Fame box set, which I'm told is now very rare
and expensive. And yes, it was likely an existing mix in
the vaults that was never issued on vinyl.   
The 2003 Universal Jazz CD release was the first time I
was made aware of it.
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For a free MP3 of the very clear true stereo Ebony
Eyes:
https://archive.org/download/TheEverlyBrothers-
ebonyEyes/TheEverlyBrothers-ebonyEyes.mp3

The Time Life Everly Brothers hits comp and these
comps
also have it:
AM Gold - Early '60s Classics ~ Time-Life R984-20
Hard to Find 45s on CD - Vol. 5: Sixties Pop Classics
~
Eric 11509-2
Heartaches & Harmonies ~ Rhino R2-71779
Superhits - Early 60s Classics ~ Time-Life SUD-19

The first release of this master was the Time Life
Rock and Roll Era Everly Brothers comp.

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And the real Stereo debut of "Ebony Eyes" was on Warner Brothers Stereo LP discs of the era.

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KentT wrote:
And the real Stereo debut
of "Ebony Eyes" was on Warner Brothers
Stereo LP discs of the era.


The Warner albums had a rechanneled
version of the song, not stereo.

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Bump in honor of Chuck Berry...

Nadine was single only release in 1965. Hence, mono.

But it appears in stereo on a bunch of Chuck Berry comps. Anybody
know where the stereo version came from?
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