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Posted: 23 January 2017 at 12:58pm \| IP Logged

Best option is a clean vinyl dub.

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Posted: 23 January 2017 at 1:14pm \| IP Logged

Here's a question. Could the stereo be folded down to
mono and edit in the portion from the 45 that's missing
the strings?

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Posted: 23 January 2017 at 1:36pm \| IP Logged

Scratch that. I'll stick with my vinyl dub.

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Posted: 23 January 2017 at 2:20pm \| IP Logged

Looks like, according to Bill, the mono is a dedicated mix.

Edited by aaronk on 23 January 2017 at 2:21pm

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Posted: 23 January 2017 at 3:29pm \| IP Logged

Santi Paradoa wrote:

Ace released this song in mono on
a various artist CD over ten years ago, however it is not
the correct single mix. They way it was described to me
was they simply used only one of the channels of the
stereo mix (the right channel). This means the horns are
missing from that version (which you could label as a
neither the LP or 45 mix). Missed opportunity once again.

This is a cue for someone "(maybe Eric Records) to create
a legitimate stereo mix of the single version.

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Posted: 23 January 2017 at 5:54pm \| IP Logged

There are several youtube videos of the song but I don't have the bandwidth right now to listen to them to see which versions they are. Might be something interesting.

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Posted: 23 January 2017 at 6:54pm \| IP Logged

Yah Shure wrote:

However, there is no speed or pitch change during the patch job on my copy.

("Accepting the Top 40 Music On Compact Disc Chat Board's 'Tin Ears' Award is... Yah Shure.")

I'd like to thank Aaron for sending me a copy of his Revised Lyric dub, which demonstrated that I didn't know what I was talking
about. There was only one Revised Lyric DJ 45 after all, and my copy had the same slowdown zone.

As my hearing loss continues its inevitable march to the sea, the ability to detect pitch changes under certain conditions seems
to be following right in its footsteps. Hearing the Revised Lyric dub on a portable radio via a small AM transmitter made the
slowdown immediately apparent. Yet hearing it under headphones - my normal editing mode - made the glitch much harder to detect.

I know Jim used the "40 RPM" reference strictly to illustrate a point, but I should add that the slowdown doesn't actually come
anywhere near 40 RPM, and it probably isn't even as slow as 44 RPM. I slowed the "my stomach was full..." line in the
uncensored version down to the rough equivalent of 40 RPM and no one, myself included, could possibly miss such an obvious speed
change. I was expecting to hear a similarly drastic change in the speed on the revised promo, and while it is pretty
awful, it's nowhere near 40 RPM-drastic.

On the other hand, there was probably a very good reason why I filed away my copy of the Revised Lyric DJ 45 in the '70s and never
listened to it again until now. :)

I gues another question would be if anyone has tried to pitch up the slowdown to try to make it a little more seamless. I hadn't
known the backstory of the record until now, and now I see where the slowdown could be construed as, well, jarring.

Edited by sriv94 on 23 January 2017 at 6:56pm

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Posted: 24 January 2017 at 12:05am \| IP Logged

Indy500 wrote:

There are several youtube videos of the song but I don't
have the bandwidth right now to listen to them to see which versions they are.
Might be something interesting.

Every version is the LP version. If somebody wants to upload the revised
version, go ahead.

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Posted: 24 January 2017 at 5:59pm \| IP Logged

The Hits Man wrote:

Santi Paradoa wrote:

This is a cue for someone "(maybe Eric Records) to create
a legitimate stereo mix of the single version.

Very unlikely that the multi-track still exists today, or that the current rights owner has it. And of course there's a big cost factor. MM

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Posted: 28 June 2022 at 1:14am \| IP Logged

Any votes for the best version of this on CD? I'd prefer stereo but if there's a mono copy that sounds better I'd go with it.

I have a stereo version from the "Suoerhits Vol. 16: The Early '70s" and while it's not awful, it's a bit harsh.

Based on previous comments I'm wondering if this is as good as it gets. I'm guessing the master tape isn't any sonic wonder.

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Posted: 28 June 2022 at 7:27am \| IP Logged

Gene,
The stereo on the Super Hits Of The Seventies series sounds
nice. The best mono is a nice clean 45 dub since it's a
dedicated mix.

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Posted: 28 June 2022 at 7:52am \| IP Logged

To my ears, it sounds best on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 6 (1990). The same analog transfer is used on:

Time-Life's Superhits Vol. 16 The Early '70s (1992) - left/right channels swapped
Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 13 The Early '70s (1995) - is a repackaging of Superhits disc, so also has left/right channels swapped
Rhino's 2-CD Dr. Demento 25th Anniversary Collection (1995)
Varese's Dick Bartley On The Radio Vol. 2 (1997) - digitally exactly 0.239 dB quieter

There's a different analog transfer on Capricorn's 3-CD Scepter Records Story (1992), which I didn't like as much as Have A Nice Day.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 28 June 2022 at 7:52am

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Posted: 28 June 2022 at 3:06pm \| IP Logged

Sounds like I've got the best option out there. Thanks, John and Ron!

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Posted: 28 June 2022 at 9:11pm \| IP Logged

The "Have A Nice Day" volume 6 has the revised lyric but it
pitched up a bit to match the rest of the song. I used to
have one of the promos from years back. And WCOL in
Columbus played the revised version and man did it stick
out like a sore thumb when listening!
And it still hit #1 on WCOL!
Yeah one of he lost hits so to speak.

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Posted: 29 June 2022 at 6:47am \| IP Logged

Gary - The version on Have A Nice Day is the LP version, which includes the original lyrics. All the versions on CD are the LP version.

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Posted: 29 June 2022 at 2:11pm \| IP Logged

crapfromthepast wrote:

Gary - The version on Have A
Nice Day is the LP version, which includes the original
lyrics. All the versions on CD are the LP version.

I just listened again. My copy has the "both of us fine as
we could be" lyric. I can send it along if you'd like.

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Posted: 29 June 2022 at 3:13pm \| IP Logged

Are you sure?

The lyrics in question are at 1:54. The stereo LP version (which is on my copy of Have A Nice Day) and the mono commercial 45 version (unavailable on CD) both have "stomach was full as it could be". The mono promo 45 version (also unavailable on CD) has "woke up as fine as we could be".

Unless there's another pressing of Have A Nice Day Vol. 6 that I haven't encountered (which is kinda doubtful considering how long I've been working with the Rhino compilations), I think your file may be mislabeled.

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Posted: 30 June 2022 at 5:55am \| IP Logged

the weird thing is, checking it says "Have A Nice Day Vol
6" when the playlist info comes up.
So assumed that is where it is from.
I ripped song from CD, which I no longer have.
The only other place it could have come from is the Time
Life Series.
Wherever it came from, was surprised to hear a pitch
corrected version of the song, where the verse edit fits
right in.
Have you heard of any compilation that would have the
revised lyric?

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Posted: 30 June 2022 at 7:05am \| IP Logged

The revised "woke up as fine as we could be" lyric, speed-corrected or otherwise, has never been released on a commercially available CD. I also highly doubt that it's been released on a promo CD of any type.

The Time-Life releases also have the LP version with the original lyrics. I don't know where your file would have originated, but it's almost certainly not from a CD.

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Posted: 30 June 2022 at 3:48pm \| IP Logged

So I gotta wonder where it came from.
If it's a needle drop, one of the cleanest I ever heard.
It's really clean stereo.
I just listened again, and right where the revised lyric
is, it drops to mono for 2 seconds, then back to full
stereo.
Whoever did this deserves applause for his work.
Funny what you run across on da internet!

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