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Posted: 09 December 2012 at 11:21am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I just timed both sides of the promo 45 for "Never, Never Gonna Give Ya Up." The "Stereo Short Version" side has a printed time of 3:58, but it runs exactly 4:00. The "Stereo Long Version" side has a printed time of 4:44, but it runs 4:40.

Currently, CDs in the database that say "dj 45 edit" run :06 too long. Assuming that all of the 4:46 CDs contain the exact same version, the one and only edit is in the correct place, but the fade runs too long.

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Posted: 06 January 2013 at 12:13pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial 45 issued as 20th century 2058 states the
version as 'stereo short version' with a listed run time on
the label as 3:58 but actually runs 4:04.....the run out
groove info is 'M-2058-AS'.....the 45 is the same as the
'icon' and 'icon 2' cd version except that they run 0:05
short at 3:59.....

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Posted: 06 January 2013 at 12:42pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

AARON wrote:
Switching topics to "Never, Never Gonna Give You Up"...

I have a CD claiming to have the promo 45 version of this
song which runs (3:59) (It's a custom edit that was given
to me.) It starts off with the high hat for five seconds
and then edits to where the version on All-Time Greatest
Hits
begins.

I did not check the edits further to see if it matches up
the rest of the way. Before I spend time doing that, let
me ask, do I have a bogus edit, or does the short promo
version differ from the commercial 45?

The database claims that ATGH has the 45 version but :09
longer. If the commercial 45 and short promo version are
identical, then one of the two versions I have is
incorrect.

Can anyone help me out?

Second, Jim says that the short promo and stock 45
versions of "Never, Never Gonna Give You Up" are the
same.
Given that information, I am happy to report that the
version on ATGH is NEITHER the 45 nor LP version,
as they clipped off the high hat on the intro. My custom
edit, without checking all the edit points,
appears to be correct.


above i grabbed a few comments from another barry white
thread where 'never, never gonna give you up' was
mentioned....jim and aaron are correct....the version on
'atgh' edits off the high hat intro for approximately
0:04.50....then the 'atgh' version is the same until the
3:55 mark where the 45 fades out while the 'atgh' cd
version continues.....so the correct vinyl 45 version can
be re-created by adding the high hat into from the so
called '45 version' in the db to the 'atgh' cd version
and then fading the 'atgh' version for 0:06 from 3:55 to
4:01 on the 'atgh' cd version....the vinyl 45 run time is
4:04....there is a slight pitch adjustment as well...

Edited by edtop40 on 06 January 2013 at 12:43pm


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Posted: 22 September 2018 at 10:16am | IP Logged Quote Paul C

The A-side of my U.S. commercial 45 (which is the 'stereo short version' side) runs 4:00. The matrix is 'M-2058-AS-2'. The final '2' suggests that this is a later pressing than Ed's 45.

My commercial 45 actually matches Aaron's description of the promo 45 (with the 'stereo long version' on the B-side). My 45 is definitely a commercial copy. The Record Research publications confirm that the commercial 45 also has the long version on the B-side.
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Posted: 27 April 2023 at 8:54pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

According to 45cat, first issue 45s run 3:58 "Short Version" on one side and
4:44 "Long Version" on the other while second issue 45s run 3:58 on one side
and have an instrumental titled "No, I'm Never Gonna Give Ya Up" running
4:24 on the other (these are label times, not necessarily actual). AnotherProf
also has a 45 posted that DOES run 3:58 not 4:04. According to 45cat label
scans, this second issue 45 did not feature "Short Version" on the label, so
perhaps the second pressing DID run 3:58.

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Edited by davidclark on 27 April 2023 at 9:02pm


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