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edtop40
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my commercial 45 for the paper lace song "the night chicago
died" issued as mercury 73492 states the run time on the
label as 3:30 and does run that length.....the reason for
the post....the vinyl 45 starts off with the sirens at the
0:04 mark of the song in the left channel while the version
on the cd 'super hits of the 70's vol 13' has the sirens in
the right channel.....question is...do any of the cd's in
the db have the sirens in the correct channel?....thanks
john for flipping the channels for me....
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Do you mean that only the sirens are on the wrong channel, or are the left and right channels reversed for the whole song - on CDs?
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Good question... If the left and right channels are reversed during the entire song, it's a very easy fix on any digital editing software program.
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On the album (deadwax SRM-1-1008-A-CP4) the sirens are, in fact, on the left channel. The actual time is 3:28. On the 45 (deadwax 2-51294-CP-6) the same facts apply.
Two other CD's of note with reversed channels are Then Totally Oldies 1 with "Moonlight Feels Right". It has the 45 version with channels reversed. British Invasion GOLD two CD set has "Bus Stop" with reversed channels.
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Thanks to Ed and Tom, we know that the 45 and LP versions run 3:28 and 3:30, respectively, and that the siren-y keyboards at 0:04 should be in the left channel.
The song sounds great on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 13 (1990), where it runs 3:29. Unfortunately, the siren-y keyboards at 0:04 are in the right channel, so the left and right channels are swapped. The following CDs use the same analog transfer as Have A Nice Day Vol. 13, and all also have their left and right channels swapped:- Warner Special Products' 2-CD 40 Summer Fun Hits (1993)
- Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 21 1974 (1996) - digitally exactly 0.3 dB louder
- Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 17 1973-1975 (2002) - digitally exactly 0.192 dB quieter
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 31 AM Top Twenty (1993) uses the same analog transfer as Have A Nice Day Vol. 13, but reverses the left and right channels and shortens the fade a tiny bit. This fixes the left/right error of Have A Nice Day Vol. 13, so that the siren-y keyboards at 0:04 are correctly in the left channel. (Most of the tracks on Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 31 AM Top Twenty are based on earlier CD masterings, but swap the left and right channels. They just got lucky with this one track, where two wrongs make a right. The AM Top Twenty disc is the bane of my existence, because of all the left/right errors that propagated into later CDs.) The following CDs use the same analog transfer as Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 31 AM Top Twenty, and all have their left and right channels correct:- Reader's Digest's 4-CD American Pie (1998)
- Time-Life's 2-CD Seventies Music Explosion One-Hit Wonders (2005) - digitally exactly 1.4 dB louder
Razor & Tie's Those Fabulous '70s (1990) isn't based on any of the above, has its siren-y keyboards at 0:04 correctly in the left channel, and fades a little early. This disc uses the same analog transfer:- Razor & Tie's 2-CD Suddenly '70s (1997)
My recommendation:
Manually swap the left and right channels on Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 13 (1990).
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Just for kicks, I finally had a moment to satisfy my
curiosity about a minor detail on this record.
At the start of the 2nd chorus (1:50) I hear a splice
there right after the words "a hundred cops are
dead"...on the beat after that word it sounds like the
you hear reverb tail from the word "law" (:50) at the end
of the first verse.
I wondered, did they just splice in another copy of the
first chorus to make the finished product?
Answer: Yes. The entire 2nd chorus is a copy of the
entire first. Original material resumes at (2:24).
Just some FYI trivia.
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Edited by MMathews on 25 April 2017 at 10:30pm
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