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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 12:17pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
anyone know where i can find the 45 version of elton john's hit "empty garden (hey hey garden).....the 45 runs 3:59 in length and the lp version runs 5:10......any info would be helpful....

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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 2:36pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
It's never been on CD. I've been looking for years.
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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 2:54pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
P.S. The single edits of "Wrap Her Up" and "Who Wears These Shoes" have never been issued on CD, either.
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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 3:06pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Same goes for "Victim of Love" and "Bite Your Lip" (which was an edit of the extended dance remix), and, I believe, "Levon."
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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 4:48pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
hey brian.....just so you know......the 45 version of the song "wrap her up" is the same version as what is on ej's greatest hits volume 3 just faded out to 4:16.......the 45 version of the song "who wears these shoes?" is the same version as what is on "breaking hearts" just faded to 3:38......the 45 version of "victim of love" is the same version as what is on the full cd victim of love just faded to 3:18........the 45 version of the song "bite your lip" is the same version from "blue moves" faded to 3:37.....the 45 levon is the same version from the "to be continued" box set faded out to the 5:07 mark.......the only 45 version i have not been able to get is the song "empty garden"........just some minor notes from listening to my 45s versus the cd versions.........edtop40

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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 4:54pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
brain....so you know the first 3 top 40 releases by ej are in mono.......the versions are available in stereo but i don't know if you've ever seen them in mono........the songs "your song", "friends" and "levon" are all mono versions from the uni label 45's.......

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Posted: 04 December 2004 at 9:10pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
edtop40 wrote:
brain....so you know the first 3 top 40 releases by ej are in mono.......the versions are available in stereo but i don't know if you've ever seen them in mono........the songs "your song", "friends" and "levon" are all mono versions from the uni label 45's.......


I've always wondered that. I've never heard those three in mono before. Your Song... it's been on SO MANY CDs, it wouldn't surprise me if it had been issued on CD in mono, at some point, somewhere. I've never seen it, though.

Thanks for the info.
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Posted: 04 November 2005 at 9:49am | IP Logged Quote sriv94
Any way to edit the LP version of "Empty Garden" to get the 45 (my memories of the 45 are hazy--it seemed like any station that played the song here played the full-length version)?

Thanks.

Edited by sriv94 on 04 November 2005 at 9:50am

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Yes, you can edit the LP version to make the 45 version. You'll need to hack out the section from (3:03) to (3:38) on the snare hit after the word "name." Then with what you have left, chop out the section from (3:38) to (4:05) also on the snare hit.

Although the database says that DJ and commercial copies ran (3:59), the actual running time is (4:06).

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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 3:51pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94
aaronk wrote:
Yes, you can edit the LP version to make the 45 version. You'll need to hack out the section from (3:03) to (3:38) on the snare hit after the word "name." Then with what you have left, chop out the section from (3:38) to (4:05) also on the snare hit.

Although the database says that DJ and commercial copies ran (3:59), the actual running time is (4:06).


Mega thanks for the info. My home computer's out of commission for a few days but when it's repaired, I'll see if I can nail this edit down.

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Posted: 13 January 2006 at 11:23am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
aaron is in the process of making the edit for me......when i get it i'll forward it to you...

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Posted: 09 February 2007 at 10:17pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Pat:

As Aaron pointed out earlier in this thread, you might want to revise the comments for "Empty Garden (Hey, Hey Johnnie)" in the database to indicate that DJ and commercial copies have an actual run time of 4:06, not 3:59 as stated on the record label.
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Posted: 10 February 2007 at 12:15am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
aaronk wrote:
Yes, you can edit the LP version to make the 45 version. You'll need to hack out the section from (3:03) to (3:38) on the snare hit after the word "name." Then with what you have left, chop out the section from (3:38) to (4:05) also on the snare hit.

Although the database says that DJ and commercial copies ran (3:59), the actual running time is (4:06).


Ah, so it's not an early fade, it's an edit. I've always wondered -- thanks for that. I do own the 45, but I've never gotten around to figuring it out.
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If anyone has an 45 edit of "Wrap Her Up", I'd appreciate someone forwarding it to me. Thanks

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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 2:35pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
"wrap her up" is just an early fade...not an edit...

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After 12 years...has the 45 still not appeared on CD?
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Ron S wrote:
After 12 years...has the 45 still not appeared on CD?
The 45 edit of "Empty Garden" has yet to appear on CD as far as I know.

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No, but it's easy to recreate.
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The "Wrap Her Up" fadeout is on this cd-

https://www.discogs.com/Various-High-Life-Nur-Das-Gelbe-
Vom-Ei/release/1658090
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