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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote prisdeej Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2012 at 11:48am
@KentT. I wouldn't mind broadcasting high quality MP3's as
long as the source material and codecs are correct. Good
source material sounds close to me, no?
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Gee! What happened to the 2012 prediction? Can't wait for
the 2014 prediction!
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The music industry is a business. There is a cost incurred by pressing, packaging, and delivering physical media. Not so with downloads. As a collector of CD's, I used to make frequent trips to NYC shopping in the Village for promo CD singles. I stopped doing that a few years ago due to lack of available product. People with iPads, etc. are not going to carry around a bunch of CD's to listen to.

I have long been employed in the radio broadcast engineering profession. We used to be serviced with many promo CD singles. Hardly any today. It's all downloads. We get lossless cuts from the record companies. We had one Music Director years ago who preferred that. No CD to select the wrong cut, scratch or steal. While I prefer to have a physical media (i.e. CD) I do believe that it will no longer be a viable media. Proof? Tower, Virgin, etc. No more retail stores. I'd be surprised if many of the small stores I used to shop at in the Village were still around.
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Its a shame that people today will take the lousy quality of an mp3 over a wav file. I'm much like the NRA...you'll have to pull away my CD's and vinyl from my cold dead hands!!! I love good sound...there's a BIG loss with mp3s.
the way it was heard on the radio
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Originally posted by Smokin' TomGary Smokin' TomGary wrote:

We used to be serviced with many promo CD singles. Hardly any today. It's all downloads. We get lossless cuts from the record companies. We had one Music Director years ago who preferred that. No CD to select the wrong cut, scratch or steal.


How many stations still play physical CDs/records/tapes on the air as opposed to a music-on-hard-drive system? I only know of one, and they're a very old-school small market station that's mostly talk anyway. It's been over 15 years since I've worked somewhere that didn't have their music on hard drive.
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Yes, but do they load WAV files or mp3s into their hard drive?
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See below article.... For the first time, digital albums outsell CDs:



http://austin.culturemap.com/newsdetail/01-06-12-22-09-digit al-albums-outsell-cds-neilsen-billboard-announce-music-indus try-growth-in-11/
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Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

Yes, but do they load WAV files or mp3s into their hard drive?


Most, if not all modern automation systems use .wav files (with additonal headers that contain title/artist/etc.), though this was not always the case. In the 90s, when hard drives were expensive and (relatively) small, various (often proprietary) compression schemes were used, Scott Studios and Maestro (the two I'm most familiar with) used APT-X (though the header info was not compatible since at the time they were separate companies). The first station I worked at that used Scott had a whopping 9G of storage space!

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Sadly, though, most programmers and music directors can't hear the
different between wav and mp3 (people on this board excluded), so even if
they load the songs in as wav files, that doesn't mean the files they use are
all lossless to begin with. Some of them may even be under the impression
that loading in an mp3 to their wav file system makes it sound better in the
process.

I can say for certain that at previous stations where I've worked, the
automation systems recorded in wav files, but the MD had no problem
loading in an mp3 that was sent via email from the label. Also, as we've
seen, sometimes even the official promo CDs used mp3s as the source. It's
frustrating, but that's the reality.
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You'll still find some records and CDs at the left end of
the dial. For non-mainstream music formats and specialty
shows, we tend to still bring in crates of CDs and/or
records.

A lot of the issues boil down to convenience. Hopefully,
the station is running software that allows searches.
Ours doesn't (to my dismay), so a lot of us programmers
bring in our laptops with better software and properly
tagged files. (Tags tags tags! Essential! But you guys
already know that.)

Interesting that this thread started now, since I'm in
the process of getting most of my library onto my laptop
hard drive. I'd like to bring the laptop down to the
station every week instead of two heavy creates of CD-
R's. The sound may not be as good as from the CDs, but
it's WAY more convenient, and my back isn't getting any
younger.

I'm usually a stickler for sound quality, but I think 320
kbps mp3s may work OK for radio. We have a 256 kbps live
stream, so there won't be much of a difference between
flac and 320 kbps for the stream listeners. And no one
will notice over our FM signal.
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