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Posted: 13 September 2010 at 10:20pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

My commercial 45, which is stereo, confirmed as Polydor 14223 with deadwax info of "PD 14223 - AS-1B 2-1-1", has both a listed and actual time of (3:30). I only post this info because all current database CDs that include the "45 version" of this song have run times ranging from (3:19) to (3:31).
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Posted: 07 April 2011 at 10:30pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

There currently are no notes about the two different versions---with DJ chatter and without. Were 45s pressed both ways? The "Can You Dig It" box set has the version with chatter, while the "Have A Nice Decade" box set is without, yet all discs simply say "45 version" with no indication of which one you get.

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Posted: 07 April 2011 at 10:36pm | IP Logged Quote The Hits Man

The database needs to designate which CDs have the DJ
voiceovers. The "Billboard Top R&B Hits: 1974" CD also has
the version with the DJ voiceovers.

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Posted: 08 April 2011 at 6:47am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

The DJ Promo Version on CD has no chatter.

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Posted: 08 April 2011 at 9:25am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

You might be onto something, John. Is the version without the chatter/voiceovers only on promo 45s, or were there commercial 45s like this, too?

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Posted: 08 April 2011 at 7:15pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

A dj promo cd single from 1974?

My commercial vinyl 45 has the MC banter.
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Posted: 08 April 2011 at 7:21pm | IP Logged Quote The Hits Man

My commercial 45 also has the banter.

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Posted: 08 April 2011 at 9:34pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

I should have been less confusing, sorry. The DJ 45 version from The Singles Volume 9: 1973-1975 has no DJ banter.
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Posted: 08 April 2011 at 11:00pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

So, it's looking so far like commercial copies all have the banter. Is it safe to say that the "no banter" version was only on promo 45s? If so, all "45 version" CDs that are missing the banter should probably say "dj 45 version."

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Posted: 09 April 2011 at 8:55am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

Correct Aaron but we really need verification that the vinyl dj 45 did not include the banter. As you know the James Brown singles cd series has contained a number of errors.
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Posted: 09 April 2011 at 9:20am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Very true, Pat. It's highly possible those without banter are "neither"
versions. Hopefully someone owns a copy of the dj 45 to verify. In the
meantime, does anyone recall how it was played on the radio, if it
received airplay?

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DJ Banter was left off the Polydor promo single. And the local DJ could add it if desired.

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Posted: 18 April 2011 at 1:05am | IP Logged Quote The Hits Man

But, it wouldn't be the same as on the released record.

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Posted: 22 April 2011 at 4:23pm | IP Logged Quote KentT

When this was a current, most of our Disc Jockeys at WATO 1290 played this promo 45 without the DJ banter, one would do his own version. Late in the run, it was carted and played into it being an oldie that way. WJBE in Knoxville had a special James Brown mix of the song with an extended banter by James which was only available to stations he owned. WNOX 990 played the promo 45 as is as did WFLI 1070 in Chattanooga. Hopefully this will give you some East TN perspective. The several different commercial Polydor 45 singles I have owned, all had the James Brown DJ patter on them we're used to.

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