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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 10:02pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Yes, I realize "Crazy Train" wasn't even a Hot 100 song (peaked at #106), but it's one of those classic songs that still gets tons of airplay. (As a side note, Wikipedia states that is has sold more than 2 million copies as a ringtone.)

Anyhow, upon doing some Ozzy research, I stumbled upon some old info that was new news to me. Apparently, the former drummer and bass player sued Ozzy for unpaid royalties. Because of this, when Ozzy's albums were "remastered" in 2002, the bass guitar and drums were actually re-recorded. Talk about re-writing history! I wondered why my copy of The Ozzman Cometh (Greatest Hits) was only a couple bucks at the used store. Well, it's because I have the 2002 re-issue with re-recorded tracks. Doh!

The bottom line for making sure you have the original version of "Crazy Train" is to look for any version of his albums released before 2002. The original pressing of Ozzman has the correct recordings, and there is an easy way to tell if you're buying a copy but can't see the copyright date. The 2002 pressing replaces the song "Shot In The Dark" with "Miracle Man." So, if you want a GH collection, look for the Ozzman pressing that includes "Shot In The Dark."

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Posted: 07 June 2010 at 11:42pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Huh! Well, that's good to know. Wow, revisionist history never stops -- Dave Clark, Michael Jackson, etc.

Actually, the full track "Crazy Train" has sold over a million as a download as well. It hasn't been RIAA certified yet (though the ringtone was indeed certified for 2 million), but people used to post the Soundscan Hot Digital Songs chart every week with totals (which sadly stopped, sniffle), and as of April 5, 2009 "Crazy Train" had sold 1,299,094 downloads. (That, of course, would be the remixed version.)
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 10:14am | IP Logged Quote RichM921

Wow Aaron, thanks for the info. I never knew that either. Is it very easy to tell the new version from the orginal? I wonder if the version our classic rock station plays 5 times a day (or at least seems like it!) is the real version?
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 11:18am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I suppose if you were really, really familiar with the song, you might be able to pick up on it right away. If you do an A/B comparison, you definitely can tell that they are different. Listening to the intro, one of the things that sticks out is the vibraslap (yes, I had to look up what it was called...think "rattlesnake"). That instrument is noticeably different on the two versions.
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 11:44am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

My CD has a 1997 copyright if that helps.
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 1:10pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

You have the correct versions, John. Mine has a copyright of 2002 :(
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 2:07pm | IP Logged Quote maciav

It looks like this Ozzy problem could be corrected fairly soon:

http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=63322&st=0& sk=t&sd=a

Some of you may already know about this, and I hope Pat doesn't mind me posting a link, but I thought it might help those of you who are interested. The posters on this site seem to find out everything about upcoming releases.



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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 7:25am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

That's good news, Mike! Although Ozzy is probably not on the top of everyone's wish list on this board, it's good to know that they are trying to make things right again.
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Posted: 10 September 2016 at 8:42pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Were all promo and stock copies the same length (I believe (4:50))?

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One more question while I'm at it. I just downloaded a copy from the Blizzard Of Ozz 30th anniversary rerelease from 2011. On that version of
"Crazy Train," there are cymbal taps underneath the end of Ozzy's laughter, while on my version of The Essential they're mixed much lower.

So which of the two is the "correct" mix?

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Posted: 12 September 2016 at 12:55pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Doug, the 30th anniversary release with the louder taps is
the correct mix.
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Posted: 12 September 2016 at 1:18pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Thx, Mark! Was there a shorter version as well, or were they all the same long version?

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Posted: 12 September 2016 at 8:12pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Doug,

I found label scans online of the 1981 Jet 45rpm for
Crazy Train. Both the promo 45 and the commercial 45 had
listed times of 4:50.
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Posted: 12 September 2016 at 8:29pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Thx, John. I did see some label scans on Discogs that also show listed times of (4:50) (which I assume are the same ones you saw). So the question is if they
actually do run (4:50).

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Posted: 20 January 2019 at 11:31pm | IP Logged Quote NightAire

Train/release/11731789">This CD claims the radio
edit runs 4:15... now, saying that, like John & Doug I
could not find any promos or singles FOR THE USA that
listed a length of less than 4:50.

Was "Crazy Train" edited for the UK and other locations
but not the United States?

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