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Posted: 02 July 2020 at 12:07pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta

AudioDile wrote:
EdisonLite wrote:
Also, when the
Cliff Richard CDs
were reissued about 10 years ago with so many bonus
cuts, this extended 12" version was notably excluded.
Being a big hit, I wondered why. Maybe it all boils
down to the master tape is lost.


I too have been unsuccessfully searching for the long
version of We Don't Talk Anymore on CD.


I noticed a while ago that the 12" Single version was
made available digitally but all the sites had it as a
lossy file.
Last night I checked qobuzz and noticed that they had
it listed as CD quality.

https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/we-dont-talk-
anymore-12-mix-cliff-richard/0825646414932

I have never purchased anything from this site (I
usually buy from 7digital) but will give it a try.

If a lossless file did exist, I am surprised that
7digital didn't have it.

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Fetta, I am discovering that Qobuz tends to have more
lossless files than 7digital. Often, I only find MP3 on
7digital, but I will find the same file in FLAC on
Qobuz.

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Bellenger1981 wrote:
Fetta, I am discovering that
Qobuz tends to have more lossless files than 7digital.
Often, I only find MP3 on 7digital, but I will find the
same file in FLAC on Qobuz.


Yeah, Qobuz doesn't sell MP3s at all. They only sell
lossless files.
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Sorry. I should have been more specific. I
was trying to state that 7digital only
offers MP3 (and not lossless) of certain
songs, yet Qobuz has these same songs in
lossless.

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Posted: 21 September 2020 at 1:09am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Several years ago, I posted this question if any of the extended versions below are available on CD. I deleted 4 or 5 songs off the list today, but also added Bob Welch's extended version of "Precious Love" (which I didn't know existed back then). I'm bumping this up in case any of the extended versions still left on this list below are available on CD --

Can anyone tell me if these 12" mixes of top 40 hits are available on any CDs or CD-singles?

Basil, Toni - Mickey (so far, all CDs have used clean vinyl sources for this)
Branigan, Laura - Spanish Eddie
Carnes, Kim - Crazy in the Night
Hartman, Dan - Second Nature
Kinks - Come Dancing
Welch, Bob - Precious Love

And while I'm at it, does anyone know if these 12" versions (of non-top 40 hits) are available on any CDs: (No one's going to be as knowledgeable as you guys!)

Amazulu - Montego Bay
Aswad - Give a Little Love
Wilson, Mari - Just What I Always Wanted


Edited by EdisonLite on 28 September 2020 at 1:28am
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Climie Fisher Love Changes Everything 12 inch mix appears
on this cd. https://www.discogs.com/Various-New-Maxi-Dog-
No-2/release/735794

Kinks Come Dancing appears on this cd.
https://www.discogs.com/The-Kinks-Best-You-Really-Got-
Me/release/6480897

Mari Wilson Just What I Always Wanted appears on this cd.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-12-Inch-Dance-80s-
Synthpop/release/6112281

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Posted: 28 September 2020 at 1:28am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Wow, Gem80s! So glad I can buy these extended versions on CD!!
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Posted: 28 September 2020 at 1:31am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Now that I think about it, I posted this comment 10 years ago:

Basil, Toni - Mickey (so far, all CDs have used clean vinyl sources for this)

Have there been any CDs (foreign or domestic) that have released the extended version of "Mickey" in the last 10 years? It's quite possible that a tape source was used. Out of all the songs on my want list above, this one was by far this biggest, so you'd think there'd be a proper release of the 12" mix.

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Posted: 28 September 2020 at 9:54am | IP Logged Quote Gem80s

Hi Edisonlite.According to Discogs there are only 2 cds
with the 12 inch mix of Toni Basil Mickey.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Twelve-01-Magically-
Delicious-/release/8140911

https://www.discogs.com/Various-KOL-12-Inch-Dance-
Versions-Blue/release/1570189

I do not have these cds so I don't know what the quality
is like.I do agree that for such a big the 12 inch mix
should be available on a lot more cds.
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Posted: 28 September 2020 at 9:58am | IP Logged Quote Gem80s

EdisonLite wrote:
Wow, Gem80s! So glad I can buy these
extended versions on CD!!


EdisonLite If there is any more 12 inch mixes on cd you
are looking for let me know as I am trying to collect as
many as possible cds with 12 inch mixes on them.
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Posted: 28 September 2020 at 10:03pm | IP Logged Quote AudioDile

EdisonLite:

Spanish Eddie is available on this release. There has
been speculation on whether it is legit or bootleg,
but I will say that I own the series and if it's a
boot it's the best sounding, most professional boot
I've ever seen.

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Maxi-Dance-Legend-
Volume-2/release/14156662

Another very rare series I highly recommend is Big 12
Inches, of which there are 7 volumes, some with 4
discs, a few have 5 or 6 and many mixes which do not
exist on any other compilation.

https://www.discogs.com/label/1873677-Big-12-Inches-2

There are no CDs with the extended version of Crazy in
The Night - I've been searching as well.

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Posted: 01 October 2020 at 1:34am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Thanks for the info AudioDile - and love the moniker. I'll let you know if I think of any other 12" mixes I'm looking for on CD.
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Gem80s wrote:

Mari Wilson Just What I Always Wanted appears on this cd.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-12-Inch-Dance-80s-
Synthpop/release/6112281



I meant to respond to this awhile ago. I ordered that CD, but the 12" version of Mari Wilson's "Just What I Always Wanted" doesn't match the 12" I have. I wonder where it comes from. I don't know of two extended versions of the song being done back then. Some sections may overlap exactly (between my 12" and the verson on this CD) but there was a unique acapella intro in this that is not on the actual 12". There were other differences, too. And sections in a different order. But I need to study both, because I may be able to create some of the original 12" extended version from the "12 Inch Dance" CD and take what I must from the vinyl I have. The version on CD did seem to be master tape, not cleaned vinyl, so I really don't know where it came from. And it didn't seem to be "more modern" remix. It seemed "of its time".
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EdisonLite wrote:
Gem80s wrote:

Mari Wilson Just What I Always Wanted appears on this cd.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-12-Inch-Dance-80s-
Synthpop/release/6112281



I meant to respond to this awhile ago. I ordered that CD,
but the 12" version of Mari Wilson's "Just What I Always
Wanted" doesn't match the 12" I have. I wonder where it
comes from. I don't know of two extended versions of the
song being done back then. Some sections may overlap
exactly (between my 12" and the verson on this CD) but
there was a unique acapella intro in this that is not on
the actual 12". There were other differences, too. And
sections in a different order. But I need to study both,
because I may be able to create some of the original 12"
extended version from the "12 Inch Dance" CD and take what
I must from the vinyl I have. The version on CD did seem
to be master tape, not cleaned vinyl, so I really don't
know where it came from. And it didn't seem to be "more
modern" remix. It seemed "of its time".

Hi Edisonlite.There are two 12" mixes of Mari wilson's
Just What I Always Wanted.The mix on The 12 inch Dance cd
is the U.k. and European 12 inch mix.
https://www.discogs.com/Mari-Wilson-Just-What-I-Always-
Wanted/release/2384880
The mix you are talking about is the U.s. 12 inch mix but
unfortunately has never been released on cd.
https://www.discogs.com/Mari-Wilson-With-The-Wilsations-
Just-What-I-Always-Wanted-Special-Club-
Remixes/release/1315737




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Posted: 29 November 2020 at 2:49am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I hope the US 12" remix comes out on CD but I doubt it will. Glad the UK/European 12" mix did. I still haven't had a chance to really study them closely and see if parts of the UK mix can be put into the US 12" vinyl version. Or - have you checked to see if they are completely different mixes?
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Update: I just noticed the US Remix (that was linked to on Discogs above) says Remixed by Ivan Ivan. Unforuntately, the European version (on Discogs) doesn't list the remixer. Also, the CD with it - "12 Inch Dance - 80s Synthpop", which I have, doesn't list the remixer on this UK version either.
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I finally was able to compare the UK and US 12" remixes of Mari Wilson's "Just What I've Always Wanted" to see if they are the same remix but different edits. I had to adjust the EQ and speed of my 12" US disc dub to really match them up. They are not the same remixer. So while we know the US remixer is Ivan Ivan, we don't know who mixed it for the UK. The remixes (when comparing chorus to chorus or verse to verse) aren't radically different. You probably wouldn't notice if you weren't A-B'ing them, but they're definitely different, and of course, the instrumental breaks and other sections are quite different from one to the other. So unless some label releases this, it will never the see the light of day on CD.

BTW, if you don't know this song but like '80s songs that have a '60s influence (like Tracey Ullman's "They Don't Know") check out the original mix of this. I find it really catchy - and the video is nice, too, IIRC.
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Posted: 31 January 2021 at 10:13pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Does anyone have these extended mixes on CD (and if not, do you have any on vinyl)? None are in the database so I'm hoping they're on import CDs, etc.

Fleetwood Mac - Seven Wonders (extended version) 6:38
Sheena Easton - So Far So Good (extended dance version) 5:24 & (red mix) 8:00
Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing (special disco version) 6:07
Whitney Houston - How Will I Know (dance-mix) (on German 12" ONLY, not same as US remix) 6:10

The following I have on clean vinyl, so I'm wondering if they've been released on CD:
Eurythmics - There Must be an Angel (special dance mix) 6:15
Helen Reddy - Make Love to Me (disco mix) 6:38

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Seven Wonders (extended) is on the Tango In The Night 2017 deluxe edition: https://www.discogs.com/Fleetwood-Mac-Tango-In-The-Night/rel ease/10063396

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Fleetwood Mac - Seven Wonders (extended version) 6:38 (On the 2017 Tango In The Night Remaster Warner Bros - R2554813)

The Tracey Ullman - They Don't Know (extended version) 5:05 (On 2CD Comp called Special Request 80's Extended Mixed NSR-148-) Maylasia

Taco - Puttin' on the Ritz (extended version) 6:03 (On 80's Revolution Disco Pop 1 2 CD German 2012 compilation PMS-001 and also on Universal's 80's 12inch Special, a 2 CD Japan 2005 Comp that I might want myself!)

Glenn Medeiros - Nothing's Gonna Change My Love ... (extended mix) 6:06 (On German 1987 CD Maxi-Single Metronmoe 888-610-2}. Track 1 is the Extended Mix

Rick Dees - Disco Duck (disco version) 6:20 ( on 80's Disco Dance Extended Version NSR129-2, 2 CD Set Maylasia )

That's all I can spot for you...

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