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Posted: 03 July 2013 at 6:00pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

I do not recall ever seeing that Neil Diamond video prior.
Thanks for the link.

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Posted: 08 July 2013 at 7:13am | IP Logged Quote budaniel

Yeah. I went and watched all the videos from Glass Houses. It does sound like he sang the new vocals over the already finished instrumentals. I could be imagining it, but it does sound to me like the tempo is slowed down on every song. They all sound horrible to me. He should've just lip-synched....
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Posted: 02 October 2017 at 10:45am | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton

Also the video for Utopia's "Set Me Free" has a re-recorded vocal track.


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Posted: 02 October 2017 at 12:45pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Hykker wrote:
So as not to threadjack the "No Time"
thread.

Bill Cahill wrote:

Might make an interesting string on it's own, songs re-
recorded to be hits like:

Help Me Rhonda
Sweet Mary (Wadsworth Mansion)
Dead Man's Curve
Thinking Of You (Loggins and Messina)


Add to that:
Sounds of Silence--Simon & Garfunkel
Foolish Games & You Were Meant For Me--Jewel

was "All Right Now"--Free a different recording for the
single or just dramatically remixed?

It could also be argued that many ABC/Dunhill singles
from the late 60s/early 70s could fall under this
umbrella as well since they were noticeably different in
mix and sometimes vocals from the album versions (though
in those cases often the single came first)


This thread seems to have three types of re-recorded
hits. Some were already on albums and then later re-
recorded for singles, such as "Help Me Rhonda." Others
were singles first then re-recorded for a later album,
like "Sweet Mary." And the third type, songs re-recorded
for videos.

I don't think "Sounds Of Silence" counts because that
wasn't exactly re-recorded, they took the acoustic LP
version and added electric instruments to it.

Re" "Dead Man's Curve"..where is there a different
recording of this? I've heard the mono 45, the stereo LP
version and later remixes but to me they all sound like
the same recording.

You can add "I'll Be" by Edwin McCain. The original album
version was slower with less production. The re-recorded
version became the hit and they then replaced it on the
album.

BTW, side story about that - my sister bought the McCain
album as soon as she heard the song. But she got the
first pressing and was very disappointed it wasn't the
hit version. She posted a complaint about that on his fan
club site. As a result they mailed her a remastered
version of the CD at no charge. They did this for
everyone who wrote in. THAT was very nice.

I recall no such offer for all the many other CDs I
bought with versions NOT matching what I heard on the
radio, which in the 90s was epidemic!

MM



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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 8:38am | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

MMathews wrote:
Re" "Dead Man's Curve"..where is there a different recording of this? I've heard the mono 45, the stereo LP version and later remixes but to me they all sound like the same recording.


Mark, this was touched on some time ago in the "(Here They Come) From All Over The World" thread, but here's a recap: "Dead Man's Curve" originally appeared on Jan & Dean's Drag City LP, just a couple weeks into 1964. Over the next two months, the song was overhauled and issued as a single. That hit single version appeared on the duo's Dead Man's Curve/The New Girl In School LP two months later in May. Liberty inadvertently used the original Drag City recording, rather than the hit, when they issued Jan & Dean's Golden Hits Volume 2 LP in 1965 (at least on the stereo edition.)

It sounds to me like some, but not all backing track elements from the original Drag City LP version were retained for the subsequent hit version, but there are other elements not present on it that were overdubbed onto the hit, including some horns and the harp glissando leading up to the break. The drumming also differs; compare the two versions beginning at the 52-second mark: there are some added fills on the hit version, but a few drumbeats on the original recording are missing on the hit track.

The vocals were re-recorded for the hit version. Lyrically, the giveaway between the two comes at the beginning of the second verse:

Original: "The Strip was deserted late Friday night..."

Hit: "The street was deserted late Friday night..."

The second half of the break was also tightened up, following the line "...slide into the curve" and again after "forget that horrible sight." And coming out of the break:

Original: "Y'won't come back from DMC."

Hit: "Won't come back from DMC."

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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 11:16am | IP Logged Quote Indy500

Some songs are completely re-recorded because of a label change, band member change or they simply aren't happy with the first version.

Here I Go Again - Whitesnake (5 years apart)
Send Me an Angel - Real Life (6 years apart)
I Melt with You - Modern English (7 years apart)

Def Leppard, Journey and Kiss are just a few groups that are re-recording their hits because of band changes or music rights issues.

It's one of the reasons this site is so important for pop music research.


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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 1:49pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker

Yah Shure wrote:
Liberty inadvertently used the
original Drag City recording, rather than the hit,
when they issued Jan & Dean's Golden Hits Volume 2
LP in 1965 (at least on the stereo edition.)


I have the mono version of that LP, and it's the Drag
City version there too.

Speaking of alternate versions of Jan & Dean songs, when
"Sidewalk Surfin'" was reissued in 1976 there was at
least one lyric change. In the original the lyrics go
"you'll probably wipe out when you first try to shot the
(curl? curve? not up on my surfer terminology)", in the
reissue it was changed to "you'll probably eat it...".
There may have been some mix differences as well. Was
this re-worked for 1976 or was this an alternate take
from the original session?

Then there's "Gonna Hustle You" which is "New Girl In
School" with different lyrics.
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Posted: 03 October 2017 at 2:53pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Hykker wrote:
Speaking of alternate versions of Jan & Dean songs, when "Sidewalk Surfin'" was reissued in 1976 there was at least one lyric change. In the original the lyrics go "you'll probably wipe out when you first try to shot the (curl? curve? not up on my surfer terminology)", in the reissue it was changed to "you'll probably eat it...". There may have been some mix differences as well. Was this re-worked for 1976 or was this an alternate take from the original session?


It's "shoot the curl." "Shoot the curve" probably would have more relevance to "Dead Man's Curve." ;)

The 1976 "Sidewalk Surfin'" remix was done for United Artists' double-LP Golden Summer various artists compilation album, and was concurrently issued as a 45. The vocal track was brand new.

It also doesn't have the initial "bust your buns" during the opening verse like the 1964 hit did. Which, of course, was half of the fun, if not more, in '64.
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Posted: 04 October 2017 at 1:44pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Indy500 wrote:
Some songs are completely re-recorded because of a label change, band member change or they simply aren't happy with the first version.

Here I Go Again - Whitesnake (5 years apart)
Send Me an Angel - Real Life (6 years apart)
I Melt with You - Modern English (7 years apart)

Def Leppard, Journey and Kiss are just a few groups that are re-recording their hits because of band changes or music rights issues.

It's one of the reasons this site is so important for pop music research.


Just FYI ... Send Me An Angel was not re-recorded for the '89 version. It is remix. I had to research that song thoroughly so I sync'd the 2 versions...the vocal tracks are identical. Some of the synth tracks were added, re-recorded, or altered by reverb.

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Posted: 11 December 2017 at 6:42pm | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton

Indy500 wrote:
Some songs are completely re-recorded because of a label change, band member change or they simply aren't happy with the first version.

Here I Go Again - Whitesnake (5 years apart)
Send Me an Angel - Real Life (6 years apart)
I Melt with You - Modern English (7 years apart)

Def Leppard, Journey and Kiss are just a few groups that are re-recording their hits because of band changes or music rights issues.

It's one of the reasons this site is so important for pop music research.


Also though, Whitesnake did not use the re-recorded version of "Here I Go Again" as a 1987 single. It was a third more uptempo recording for the 45-rpm disc.


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"Love Is The Seventh Wave" by Sting and "Every Little
Thing She Does Is Magic" by The Police sound like their
45 vocals were rerecorded.
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Posted: 13 December 2017 at 7:49pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Not sure about the Sting song, but for "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" they simply turned up his vocal louder for the 45.
That was a greatly needed fix and it's sad that it is lost to time. In the LP version his vocals are almost buried.   
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MMathews wrote:
Not sure about the Sting song, but for "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" they simply turned up his vocal louder for the 45.
That was a greatly needed fix and it's sad that it is lost to time. In the LP version his vocals are almost buried.   


Wow....I always thought it was a different vocal because the raised vocal made it sound so much different to me. The 45 is far superior in my opinion.
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I agree with Mark that it's the same vocal on "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic." Sting's "Love Is The Seventh Wave" definitely has re-recorded vocals in places, but I'm not sure if the entire song is re-recorded. The most notable part is the verse in the middle where the music and vocals change key, which does not occur in the LP version.

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Posted: 02 January 2019 at 3:29pm | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton

Well here's one to add. The video version of "Rhythm of the Night" by DeBarge.

This one was new to me, as I've never seen the video. The vocal and keyboard takes are different on this track. Additionally, the crowd sound effects have been removed.


Edited by Jody Thornton on 02 January 2019 at 3:29pm


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