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Posted: 06 August 2008 at 9:06am | IP Logged Quote abagon

SIMON & GARFUNKEL - "Wake Up Little Susie"

The actual commercial 45 running time is (2:16), the listed time is "2:20" on the record label (Warner WBS 50053)
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it seems as if there is an edit on the 45....the first
vocals "wake up..." starts at the 0:15 point after the
intro....while the cd version's "wake up..." starts at the
0:18 mark........can anyone confirm this for me.....this
may account for the time differences between the 45 and lp
versions....

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Listening to the version Ron has, the 45 almost sounds a little sped up compared to the LP and maybe there's a little fade-in on the 45.
Not sure if the audiences are different as Ron notes, although Pat has no notation in the database for a 45/LP difference.

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Hi all,

Pat asked me to do one of my patented comparisons to
determine if there is a 45 "version" for this. There is.
The 45 has an edit in the intro. A whopping 2 second
edit.

Doug is correct, there is also a pitch change. The 45 is
also ED'd with more bass and a lot of hi's have been
rolled off - but it is the same mix just EQ'd very
differently and the channels are swapped.

If you are editing this from the CD "Concert In Central
Park" here's what you need to do. Due to the indexing on
the disc, you'll need to rip the previous track "April
Come She Will" because the 45 has has 1 sec fade up of
the crowd before the guitar starts. But the CD index
starts right on the first guitar note.

1) Rip "Wake Up" and "April".
2) Take 1.5 secs of crowd/background from the end of
April and tack onto intro of Wake Up. Create a 1 sec
fade-in of that. Sorry I can't give better detail than
that.
3) swap the channels.
4) Speed up the file. In my software, it is sped up by
exactly 19% of a semi-tone. I can't help with other types
of percents that get posted here. I have no idea what
they are percentages of. Audition users can configure
their pitch dialog to read in % of semi-tone.
5) The edit. The time codes i give here are from the
start of the guitar. I can't start from the fade-up
because that is too vague.
Edit out 8 beats from :12.9 seconds to :14.8 seconds. So
your starting edit-point is 16 beats away from the vocal
start and your ending edit-point is 8 beats away from the
vocal.
Then fade the ending applause out starting at approx.
2:12 and complete the fade by almost exactly (2:16.)

There ya have it. You can decide if you want to roll off
the hi's and increase the bass like the 45. But I guess
you'd need a reference dub to do that.

I'm sure the producers thought that 2 second edit in the
intro would make ALL the difference.

MM

   

Edited by MMathews on 02 February 2018 at 12:18am
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A semitone is 2^(1/12), or 1.0595; that's 5.95%.

19% of the 5.95% is 1.1%.

So the 45 is sped up by 1.1%, which is significant, but not crazy-fast.

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