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Posted: 31 July 2005 at 12:11pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

In my 8th Edition, Pat lists "What It Takes" by Aerosmith as 'neither the 45 or LP version' on the CD Big Ones. If it hasn't been corrected, this comment should be listed as LP version. Even though the song runs (6:28) on Pump and only (5:10) on Big Ones, this is because on Pump there is an instrumental song that was not given its own track.

If you listen to "What It Takes" on Pump, you'll see that the song completely fades out by (5:10), then there's about nine seconds of blank space before the instrumental song comes on.
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Aaron my feeling on this is that all other selections on this cd are essentially segued together and with :09 between "What It Takes" and the uncredited instrumental, that is far longer than the industry standard for separating tracks on a cd so I don't feel that it is an uncredited instrumental at all but probably a coda.

Anyone else wish to weigh in on this question?

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Posted: 01 August 2005 at 11:10am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I see your point, Pat. I always assumed that this was similar to "Dulcimer Stomp," which is the short instrumental before "The Other Side" on Pump, opening side two of the record. Perhaps your comment in the book, like the way you labeled "The Other Side," could read "LP version without coda" next to Big Ones.
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Posted: 01 August 2005 at 11:21am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I agree with Aaron's suggestion to use an (LP version without coda) comment for the 5:10 version of "What It Takes", especially considering the 10th edition already shows the Pump CD on Geffen 24254 and 069493097 with the comment: (LP version with coda).
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Posted: 01 August 2005 at 6:28pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

what is a "coda"

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I agree, the comment (LP version without the coda" sounds appropriate.

From Webster's dictionary, coda is defined as "a concluding musical section that is formally distinct from the main structure".

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Posted: 30 July 2009 at 10:51pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I have Aerosmith's "What It Takes" on a promo CD single (Geffen PRO-CD-3852) which contains the following tracks and actual run times:

1) CHR Remix/Edit - 4:06 (printed time: 4:06)
2) LP Version - 5:11 (not 6:28 as printed on the CD label)

Can anyone confirm if the "CHR Remix/Edit" is the same as the commercial single version? I don't have a copy of the latter to verify.

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Posted: 31 July 2009 at 9:10am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Also, is the "CHR Remix/Edit" really remixed, or is it just an edit? I have both versions, but I've never compared the mixes. This is one of those songs that I prefer the album version, because the edits on the single version are very jarring.
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Posted: 15 August 2009 at 5:03am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Commercial cassette single copies of Aerosmith's "What It Takes" has an actual run time of 4:06 and does state "Remix/Edit" on the label. As of this time, I still don't know if it's identical to the "CHR Remix/Edit", but I can at least compare the latter to the LP version and see any actual mix differences can be detected.

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Posted: 15 August 2009 at 2:52pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

todd...do you need an mp3 of the cassingle version to do your own a/b comparison?

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Posted: 15 August 2009 at 3:34pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Todd, I can send you a copy of the CHR Remix/Edit for comparison purposes.
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Posted: 15 August 2009 at 11:32pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I would indeed welcome a copy to compare. Thanks, guys!
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Posted: 16 August 2009 at 6:04am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

my commercial cassingle issued as geffen 19944 states the tracks as below

1-what is takes (remix/edit) (4:06)
2-monkey on my back (lp version) (3:56)

todd...i did some more digging on my end and i can confirm that the "remix/edit" version which is on the cassingle is identical to the "chr remix edit" that is on the promo cd single.....hopefully this one is put to rest....

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Posted: 16 August 2009 at 12:04pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Thanks for all your analysis here, Ed. You're a big help!
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Posted: 21 July 2015 at 3:42pm | IP Logged Quote chendagam

aaronk wrote:
Also, is the "CHR Remix/Edit" really remixed, or is it just an
edit? I have both versions, but I've never compared the mixes. This is one of
those songs that I prefer the album version, because the edits on the single
version are very jarring.


Any conformation on this yet?
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Posted: 21 July 2015 at 5:41pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I just A/B'd the version on Big Ones with the CHR Remix/Edit, and nothing is jumping out at me. I'll have to do a more careful listen when time permits, but if I had to make the call right now, I'd say they are the same mix.

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Posted: 14 February 2020 at 6:19am | IP Logged Quote RichM921

I just heard a version of this song on an old Casey Kasem countdown
where it sounds like a completely different vocal take was used. It had
all the typical edit points that I'm used to. Could this be a case of some
copies having a completely remixed version and others just have an
edit of the album version?
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