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Posted: 17 March 2008 at 10:51am | IP Logged Quote abagon

"Did It In A Minute" :by DARYL HALL & JOHN OATES (1982)
My stock 45(RCA PB-13065) actual running time is (3:25)
not (3:37)as stated on the record label.
This tune on vinyl LP "Private Eyes"issued U.S.'s running time is (3:36)
This single is simply faded earlier than the LP.

Confirm,please.
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Abagon, I have just timed my commercial 45, and both the mono and stereo sides of my promo 45. All 3 of these sides do have a listed time of (3:37), but an actual time of (3:25), confirming your findings above. Many thanks for your excellent detective work, Abagon!
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Posted: 21 December 2008 at 10:20pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I'm in the process of digitally re-creating the 45 fade of Daryl Hall & John Oates' "Did It in a Minute" out of one of my CD sources. Abagon is absolutely correct that the 45 is an early fade of the LP. Pat, you might want to add "LP length" comments next to each of the song's CD entries in the database for the benefit of your subscribers.
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Posted: 18 October 2013 at 5:32pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

Confirming all of the above. To recreate the 45 fade, insert a fade from the downbeat at 3:05 to 3:25.

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Posted: 07 August 2022 at 7:51pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Fourteen years later... The 45 is a unique mix, but the differences are subtle.

I played my promo 45 today, and at the very beginning there is something that sounds like a splice during the first note. This immediately stood out to me, and it made me want to investigate the entire song a bit further. To my surprise, I found that the 45 puts the electric guitars and piano in the center, while the LP mix has them slightly panned. There are other places where the 45 version mixes the vocals a bit louder, especially during the last part of each verse during the key change.

Presumably the stock 45 has the same mix, but I'll have to pull my copy to double check.

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Posted: 07 August 2022 at 8:16pm | IP Logged Quote LunarLaugh

I have a double-sided Mono/Stereo promo of this one. Is it
a unique mix or is the stereo image just narrowed when
compared to the LP?

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Posted: 07 August 2022 at 8:31pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

It's not the LP mix narrowed, because that was what I initially thought. The guitars and piano are dead center, while the vocals and drums still have stereo panning.

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Posted: 08 August 2022 at 5:20am | IP Logged Quote kaqueno

Does anyone know if version 45 is released on cd?

I only have the lp version, I never realized that the 45
was a unique mix, can someone send me a copy to
compare?, thanks

Edited by kaqueno on 08 August 2022 at 5:21am


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kaqueno wrote:
Does anyone know if version 45 is released on cd?

I only have the lp version, I never realized that the 45
was a unique mix, can someone send me a copy to
compare?, thanks


To my knowledge no it has not made CD.

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Posted: 08 August 2022 at 10:32am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I listened to at least a dozen different CD copies, and they all have the LP mix. I'm guessing nobody at RCA realized the mix was slightly different when they released several other Hall & Oates single mixes in recent years.

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Posted: 11 August 2022 at 8:11am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I can report for sure that the stock 45 has the same mix as the promo 45, but it does not have the "glitch" (or splice) on the intro. I also have a reissue 45, again with the 45 mix, but this copy does have a glitch on the intro, although it comes sooner than the promo 45's glitch. Here's a copy of the reissue 45 playing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaCgrB3gZ1k

The glitch on the intro of the reissue 45 happens at exactly 0:00.30, while the glitch on the promo 45 is at 0:00.56. I don't know what to make of this, as it doesn't sound like a typical tape dropout. If it were, I would expect it to be on all copies and in the exact same place.

Finally, I have a promo LP set called RCA's Hottest Tracks, and it includes the 45 mix of "Did It In A Minute" (without the intro glitch).

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Posted: 11 August 2022 at 10:40am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

The glitch shows a momentary drop in high frequencies.

The spectrograms of the promo 45 and the reissue 45 show the same momentary drop in high frequencies, but at different times, as Aaron reported. Unusual, for sure, but it tells me that there likely isn't any permanent tape damage.

If I had to guess, I'd vote debris on the tape near the beginning of the song. From my tape days, we always cleaned the tape heads, but never cleaned the actual tape.

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Posted: 14 November 2022 at 1:42am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

That's too bad Sony never noticed this had a unique 7" mix. I was so glad when
the 7" mix of "I Don't Wanna Lose You" (#42, and very different than the LP
mix) was included on the "Playlist" CD, IIRC. This would have been the perfect
CD to include the 7" mix of DIIAM. Sadly, since Sony no longer reissues CDs, I
guess we'll never see this mix come out from tape sources. Although I suppose
there's a slight chance it could be released as digital-only, since not CD.
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