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aaronk
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Posted: 18 August 2005 at 8:03pm \| IP Logged

Gosh, maybe I've become so used to hearing the version on my TM library, I don't even remember what my 45 sounds like. What is the "crossfaded" intro you are speaking of? The disc I have it on has an edit at the intro, but nowhere is it crossfaded.

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Posted: 19 August 2005 at 1:34am \| IP Logged

No, on the 45 (which I brilliantly recreated, ha ha), the spoken intro CONTINUES after the guitar starts, and his "If the elevator tries to bring you down" line overlaps the spoken part from earlier in the song. It goes...

"Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today
To get through this thing called [guitar starts] life"

Then simultaneously, overlapping:

"And if the elvator tries to bring you down
(Electric word, life, it means forever)
Go crazy, punch a higher floor
(And that's a mightly long time, but I mean to tell you)

"I mean to tell you" is the end of the overlap, and it ends right on the second syllable of "Crazy," so the overlap has ended by the line, "punch a higher floor." You don't even have to fade it out... just end it on the silence right before "the afterworld," and the music on the other track is rocking so loud it totally drowns out the end of the overlap.

And no volume adjustment... both clips play at full volume while overlapping.

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Posted: 19 August 2005 at 7:45am \| IP Logged

Yep, Brian pretty much nailed it with his description there. That was the crossfade i was referring to. I was thinking the poster on the Hoffman site might think that intro was specially remixed for the single (and then assume the whole thing was remixed), when we are really hearing about 10 seconds of overlapping audio from 2 different parts of the LP intro.
Side note; In all the decades of music I like, I've heard 45 versions that range from a simple edit, to remixes, all the way to completely re-recording the song for the 45. But this 10 second overlap/crossfade is quite unique. -Mark M

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Posted: 19 August 2005 at 1:58pm \| IP Logged

Wow, I just re-created the intro exactly like you described, Brian, and it sounds horrific. I don't remember the 45 sounding that terrible at the beginning, but like I said, I'm so accustomed to hearing the straight edit on my TM library, I've probably forgotten what the original 45 sounds like.

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Posted: 29 June 2006 at 4:19pm \| IP Logged

reviving an old one here..........the commercial cassingle of the song "7" states that the version is the "album version" on bothe the cassingle sleeve and the tape itself.....but it DOES NOT have any gong intros.....just a note.....

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Posted: 30 June 2006 at 8:37pm \| IP Logged

Where does one cut to make the 45 edit of "Take Me With You"?

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Posted: 30 June 2006 at 9:34pm \| IP Logged

Grant wrote:

Where does one cut to make the 45 edit of "Take Me With You"?

There's one edit near the end of the song. It's at the place where the "breakdown" is (that sounds identical to the intro). I'll try to explain as best I can:

end of last chorus "take me with you -- ooh ooh"
(2 measures - then breakdown starts)
count 1 measure of breakdown - 4 count
(edit)
leave last measure of breakdown - 4 count - breakdown ends
(music plays through fade out)

In other words, the breakdown in the LP version runs seven measures. In the edit, it only runs two measures (eight count). Hopefully that makes sense...

Edited by aaronk on 30 June 2006 at 9:37pm

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Posted: 30 June 2006 at 10:46pm \| IP Logged

I think I got it. the breakdown is just two measures. Question, does the 45 use the first measure and the last measure of that breakdown, or the last two measures of it?

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Posted: 01 July 2006 at 6:37am \| IP Logged

First and last measures. Good luck!

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Posted: 08 July 2006 at 8:52pm \| IP Logged

For anyone interested in the 45 version for "Money Don't Matter 2 Night," it's two very easy edits:

1) Chop off the very first drum tap (so that there's only six taps before the cymbal)
2) Cut the last repeated chorus right before the word "and" in the line "and it sure don't matter 2 night" (the word "and" is actually missing from the place where your beginning edit goes, but mark the edit point on the same drum beat) right at 4:00.

Thanks to Edtop40 for supplying this info!

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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 7:34am \| IP Logged

Thanks to Brian for the description of the Let's Go Crazy 45 intro.

I was wondering where the edit occurs near the end. :)

Also, could someone describe the edit points for Batdance? I had the cassingle --played it to death as a child-- and recreated it as I remembered it, but I come up about 16 seconds short...

And may I just say once more how much I love this forum. :)

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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 10:26am \| IP Logged

The edit at the end is right after he says "please come, please come." The next four measures are cut out, and it jumps to the part where the beat stops.

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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 11:18am \| IP Logged

Thanks! You've been a great help.

Now, anyone got Batdance edit points?

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Posted: 24 August 2006 at 10:53pm \| IP Logged

Without having my soundtrack to reference (I'm not at home), I probably wouldn't be extremely accurate. From memory, I believe there are only two edits, which are:

From the section that says "and where, and where...is the Batman?" to the section that says "stop the press...who is that?" The edit is right before the four guitar notes.

Then, right after "this town needs an enema," there's a couple sound effects before the beat comes back in. The edit is right before the beat starts and cuts to the explosion sound at the end right before the repeated laughing.

Again, this is all memory, but I'm pretty familiar with both versions. When I get home, I can try to post more accurate info.

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Posted: 29 August 2006 at 6:44pm \| IP Logged

aaronk wrote:

Grant wrote:

Where does one cut to make the 45 edit of "Take Me With You"?

Unbelievable! I always thought this was just the LP version and the time was off by 10 seconds. This site rocks!

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Posted: 14 September 2006 at 9:40pm \| IP Logged

Just to follow up on the edits to "Batdance" ---

from (1:44) to (2:40) is cut from the LP version

and

from (4:55) to (6:06) is cut from the LP version

I listed two posts ago the exact points in the music where the edits occur.

Edited by aaronk on 14 September 2006 at 9:43pm

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Posted: 17 January 2007 at 3:41pm \| IP Logged

Thanks to Jim for helping uncover this one. The b-side of the promo 45 says "Dance Remix" on the label (printed and actual run time of 4:32), but it is just the LP version faded early. This version also starts at the same point the stock 45 version does (and does not include the segue from the actual LP).

EDIT: I'm referring to "Little Red Corvette."

Edited by aaronk on 18 January 2007 at 12:01am

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Posted: 17 January 2007 at 6:31pm \| IP Logged

Are you talking about the promo 45 for "Batdance", Aaron?

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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 12:00am \| IP Logged

I suppose it would help to say which song I'm talking about, wouldn't it? I'm referring to "Little Red Corvette." Sorry 'bout that!

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Posted: 27 March 2009 at 10:04pm \| IP Logged

Aaron pointed me to this thread and is very informative.

I concur with Brian W. on the 'single remix' for "Get Off."
It puzzles me they would reverse part of the word ass, yet leave another line in earlier in the song that would seem more offensive.

And, it doesn't to me sound much different than the LP version.

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