Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Chat Board
 Top 40 Music on Compact Disc : Chat Board
Subject Topic: Tavares-"Heaven Must Be Missing An..." Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message << Prev Topic | Next Topic >>
jimct
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 07 April 2006
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3906
Posted: 23 January 2008 at 11:22am | IP Logged Quote jimct

My commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:28), but an actual time of (3:32).
Back to Top View jimct's Profile Search for other posts by jimct
 
MMathews
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 18 August 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 978
Posted: 18 September 2014 at 12:51pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

I noticed in DB this is listed as "45 Version" instead of
length. I always just assumed the 45 was the first half of
the LP version. Are there any edits?
Back to Top View MMathews's Profile Search for other posts by MMathews
 
aaronk
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6428
Posted: 18 September 2014 at 1:07pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

If what you say is true, Mark, this is one of the many songs that Pat opts to use "version" for some undetermined reason. See also:

"Owner Of A Lonely Heart" by Yes
"Slow Ride" by Foghat
"We Are The World" by USA for Africa
...and several others that are really just early fades yet still say "version" in the database.

__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop
Back to Top View aaronk's Profile Search for other posts by aaronk Visit aaronk's Homepage
 
The Hits Man
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 04 February 2007
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 665
Posted: 18 September 2014 at 9:03pm | IP Logged Quote The Hits Man

The side one of the 45 is an early fade of the album
version, and the other side is the rest of it.

I detect no differences in the mix.

__________________
Back to Top View The Hits Man's Profile Search for other posts by The Hits Man
 
EdisonLite
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 18 October 2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2234
Posted: 19 September 2014 at 7:36am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

aaronk wrote:
If what you say is true, Mark, this is one of the many songs that Pat opts to use "version" for some undetermined reason.


I'm trying to recall the reasons Pat has opted for a "version" designation, when a fade of the album version yields the single version. If I recall, there was an instance where a new instrument was introduced (on the album version) after the single had already faded out, and that warranted a single "version" designation. Perhaps also if a new section of the song was introduced on the album version, but the single was faded out before it got to that point, then that's not considered a single length. Does anyone recall the other reasons Pat has given for these "single version" designations when the single is an early fade of the album? It would be good to know this when looking through the database. Up until a year ago, I had wrongly assumed that "single version" always meant either a different mix or an edit, and cleary that's not in synch with Pat's designations.
Back to Top View EdisonLite's Profile Search for other posts by EdisonLite Visit EdisonLite's Homepage
 
Pat Downey
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 01 October 2003
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1736
Posted: 19 September 2014 at 9:33am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

Yes there are examples as pointed out above where you could fade the full length of an album track to get the 45 version replicated but in cases where there is some significant difference after the 45 fade then I leave in the designation of "version". Examples might be additional verses, instrument solos, additional instrumentation or different ending such as a cold ending on the LP vs a fade on the 45.
Back to Top View Pat Downey's Profile Search for other posts by Pat Downey
 
MMathews
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 18 August 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 978
Posted: 19 September 2014 at 1:39pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Unfortunately though, that methodology makes the "version" vs. "length" designation unreliable. If it says "length" I can trust it, but "version" will always need additional research to determine if that is true. MM
Back to Top View MMathews's Profile Search for other posts by MMathews
 
Paul Haney
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 01 April 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1709
Posted: 19 May 2018 at 12:38pm | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

Bump
Back to Top View Paul Haney's Profile Search for other posts by Paul Haney
 
sriv94
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 16 September 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1452
Posted: 19 May 2018 at 12:54pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Thanks for the bump, but unfortunately it doesn't answer my question.

My only source for the LP version of this song (have the 45 version on a couple of comps) is the Capitol 1940-2002 box set. However, this version
fades in, whereas I believe the correct LP version starts cold like the 45. Is that indeed the case?

Edited by sriv94 on 19 May 2018 at 12:55pm


__________________
Doug
---------------
All of the good signatures have been taken.
Back to Top View sriv94's Profile Search for other posts by sriv94
 
Santi Paradoa
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 17 February 2009
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1082
Posted: 19 May 2018 at 1:32pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

The LP version does not fade in. My source is the 1993 Capitol Gold: The Best Of CD.

__________________
Santi Paradoa
Miami, Florida
Back to Top View Santi Paradoa's Profile Search for other posts by Santi Paradoa
 
sriv94
MusicFan
MusicFan


Joined: 16 September 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1452
Posted: 19 May 2018 at 3:37pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Thx, Santi.

__________________
Doug
---------------
All of the good signatures have been taken.
Back to Top View sriv94's Profile Search for other posts by sriv94
 
Pat Downey
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 01 October 2003
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1736
Posted: 21 May 2018 at 8:56am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

I believe the official title of the song is "Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel (Part 1)" hence my designation of 45 version. I would gladly change the designation to add Part 1 instead of 45 version if you would like.
Back to Top View Pat Downey's Profile Search for other posts by Pat Downey
 

If you wish to post a reply to this topic you must first login
If you are not already registered you must first register

  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



This page was generated in 0.0942 seconds.