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Posted: 25 November 2007 at 8:22am | IP Logged Quote jimct

I'm afraid I may have to bother my very busy friend, Paul Haney, for this one. Although not in the database, this song peaked at #34 in Billboard, in 12/79. I only own a promo 45 for this song. And, once again here, RSO used a "timing deception" ploy that they'd also used on several other occasions back in the late 70's, for promo 45s. Attempting, through confusion/trickery, to make the song APPEAR to radio to be shorter in length than it actually was, for both the mono and stereo sides, the timing states "Intro :15", in small print, just above a bold print (3:36) listed time. The problem is, you must add the two times together to get the actual time, which is (3:51). This just does happen to be correct, but you must combine the two times (:15 + 3:36 = 3:51!) The good news here is that the length of this song on my Polydor CD "Best Of Yvonne Elliman" is (3:50). But, my brand new Pop Annual states a time for "Love Pains" of (3:15). Now my question for Paul: Is the (3:15) stock 45 listed time in my Pop Annual transposed (3:51), by either RSO or Record Research? Or, does the stock 45 actually run (3:15)?

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Posted: 26 November 2007 at 12:17pm | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

jimct wrote:
I'm afraid I may have to bother my very busy friend, Paul Haney, for this one. Although not in the database, this song peaked at #34 in Billboard, in 12/79. I only own a promo 45 for this song. And, once again here, RSO used a "timing deception" ploy that they'd also used on several other occasions back in the late 70's, for promo 45s. Attempting, through confusion/trickery, to make the song APPEAR to radio to be shorter in length than it actually was, for both the mono and stereo sides, the timing states "Intro :15", in small print, just above a bold print (3:36) listed time. The problem is, you must add the two times together to get the actual time, which is (3:51). This just does happen to be correct, but you must combine the two times (:15 + 3:36 = 3:51!) The good news here is that the length of this song on my Polydor CD "Best Of Yvonne Elliman" is (3:50). But, my brand new Pop Annual states a time for "Love Pains" of (3:15). Now my question for Paul: Is the (3:15) stock 45 listed time in my Pop Annual transposed (3:51), by either RSO or Record Research? Or, does the stock 45 actually run (3:15)?


Jim, I checked our copy and you hit the nail right on the head, the correct printed time of (3:51) got transposed by us to the incorrect (3:15). Thanks for the heads-up!
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