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Brian W.
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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 11:23am \| IP Logged

That's what we're trying to find out. The song hasn't been on very many CDs.

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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:03pm \| IP Logged

i just did an a/b of my commercial 45 of "how will i know" issued as arista 9434......the run out groove has "ASI 9434 - SA RE - 1"....it then has what looks like "DCA" scratched out and next to that "DW2"....this 45 is identical to the version from the cd i had, and copied, many years ago, so i no longer have the cd to get the original matrix number as reference....i don't hear any word "heartbeat" at all in the faded out...can someone tell me exactly what minute it is so i can more closely listen....

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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 4:48pm \| IP Logged

edtop40 wrote:

It should be at 4:24, Ed. It's right about where the "ooh" is. Have Aaron send you his sample. But considering that "RE-1" in the runout groove, it's sounding like we may have more than one version of the commercial 45.

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just checked it again and at the 4:24 mark of the cd version i have nor the commercial 45 i have, it DOES NOT have heartbeat in the vocals, anywhere....hope this helps....

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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 5:45pm \| IP Logged

I haven't been able to get the matrix number on the other commercial copy yet, but I'm still wondering why the heck they would've spliced the last 10 seconds of the LP version onto a perfectly fine 45 version and reissued the 45. It just doesn't make any sense.

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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 9:23pm \| IP Logged

I have now heard both Aaron's and Ed's commecial 45 copies, and there were definitely two pressings of the 45 -- one with the slightly fuller instrumentation on the fadeout and the extra "heartbeat" background vocal, and one matching the current CD album version.

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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 12:27am \| IP Logged

But just to be sure we're on the same page, Brian, the 45 with the "current CD album version" is NOT the LP version. Basically, the two 45 versions are identical up until the ending, correct?

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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 12:35am \| IP Logged

Well, I don't know... I don't have a full version of what's on your 45, so I can't compare the whole song.

But since the remix has been on every pressing of the album for over 20 years now, I don't think "current CD album version," or at least "remastered album version," is inappropriate.

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I don't have a full version of that 45 either. I just dubbed the ending for comparison purposes. I guess what I'm concluding is that there are three versions of this song:

- The original LP version
- The "remix" 45 version
- The "remix" 45 version with the LP ending

What I was asking is that when you referred to "current CD album version," you were referring to the "remix" with LP ending and not the "LP version." I'm just trying to clarify that none of the 45s contain the original LP version.

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aaronk wrote:

What I was asking is that when you referred to "current CD album version," you were referring to the "remix" with LP ending and not the "LP version." I'm just trying to clarify that none of the 45s contain the original LP version.

Yeah, that's what I meant. But have we determined for sure that the dubbed-in ending is in fact the original LP version's ending?

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Brian W. wrote:

Yeah, that's what I meant. But have we determined for sure that the dubbed-in ending is in fact the original LP version's ending?

I guess that is also to be determined for sure, but if my memory is correct, it sounds like the LP version to me. I used to have the cassette tape with the true LP version, and I remember the fadeout lasted a little bit longer than my 45 copy. I am only speculating that this spliced on ending is from that version. I also recall that the true LP version does not start off with just drums. The keyboards come in right away, and the mix is different.

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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 2:27pm \| IP Logged

My US 45 is as Brian W. described, WITH the 'heartbeat'. Matrix is AS1 9434SA-1. Since the matrix number has no 'RE' and since my 45 came with a picture sleeve, this would appear to be the earlier pressing.

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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 7:27pm \| IP Logged

My promo 45 of "How Will I Know" has the edit to the LP mix at the end too!

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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 8:05pm \| IP Logged

my commercial 45 with the lp version on it has a picture sleeve as well....

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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 8:48pm \| IP Logged

I may as well jump into the quicksand here. I always bought all Billboard Hot 100 new entries the moment they appeared, in their first week on the chart. My "How Will I Know" stock deadwax is AS1-9434-SA SR1 1-1 (with the first "4" deeply and repeatedly retraced, covering an initial "3"). There is no "heartbeat" sung during the fade. My promo 45, like Pat's, has a listed time of (4:10), but mine has an actual time of (4:29), not (4:33) as Pat specifies for his DJ 45. My promo for this is one of the ONLY styrene Arista promo 45s I have ever seen, for what it's worth, and its deadwax is "AS1-9434-SA SH1 (the first "4" again retraced, covering an initial "3", but not NEARLY as forcefully done) R-15144-SH1 SLM (triangle) 111 71 1-". Oh boy...If anyone wants a dub of either of these, let me know.

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jimct wrote:

"How Will I Know" stock deadwax is AS1-9434-SA SR1 1-1 (with the first "4" deeply and repeatedly retraced, covering an initial "3"). There is no "heartbeat" sung during the fade.

I have both a stock and promo copy in front of me with the same matrix numbers, and they both do have the "heartbeat" vocal on the fadeout. The conclusion here is that all 4:29 (actual) 45s have the original 45 remix. All 4:33 (actual) 45s with the "RE" in the deadwax have the 45 remix with the LP ending spliced on.

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maciav wrote:

Does anyone know if there is an import CD with the correct 45-version?

A digital source for the 45 version with the "heartbeat" ending can be found on her "The Greatest Hits" DVD.

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Posted: 06 March 2009 at 6:39am \| IP Logged

Just watched the video on YouTube. Guess what, 45 version with LP ending!

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elcoleccionista wrote:

A digital source for the 45 version with the "heartbeat" ending can be found on her "The Greatest Hits" DVD.

I've always found these types of sources to be hissy, especially on '80s-era songs.

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eriejwg wrote:

Just watched the video on YouTube. Guess what, 45 version with LP ending!

Never trust YouTube to be the original source. Most likely, someone dubbed over the audio track with their CD copy.

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