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Posted: 16 November 2007 at 11:07pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I have the song "Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car" by Billy Ocean on a TM Century GoldDisc, and it's labeled as an "AC Edit." Basically it cuts the sound effects and spoken intro. Our resident promo 45 expert, Jim, has never come across the actual vinyl, and I couldn't locate one doing an online search. Can anyone confirm the existance of it? There's no database info, either.
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Posted: 17 November 2007 at 5:01am | IP Logged Quote BillCahill

I could be wrong but I believe that some radio stations made their own edit, so TM Century made that edit on their own. I've never seen a promo copy with an edit like that.

One could still exist, I've just never seen it.
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Posted: 17 November 2007 at 10:29pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Thanks, Bill. If you haven't seen it and Jim hasn't seen it, I'm betting that it doesn't exist. TM did a similar thing in '88 with "Red Red Wine." They chopped the 5:20ish version down to about 4:20, which I've never been able to find on an official promo.
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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 3:19pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

For what it's worth, this "AC Edit" appears to be on
The A List, where it runs 4:33 (without outro
silence). It's an edit of the LP version that cuts out
the opening car sounds and opening back-and-forth spoken
stuff.

It runs slower than the 45 version (117.1 BPM on
virtually all CD appearances), running about 116.1 BPM.

I never heard this on the air, and have never seen it on
vinyl.

This is also another data point leading me to think that
all the A List tracks are taken from TM Century
discs...
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Posted: 20 September 2014 at 5:17pm | IP Logged Quote Indy500

The 12" version is available on "Pure... 80's remixes" a 2014 4-CD set from
Sony Music.
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Posted: 22 May 2020 at 9:31am | IP Logged Quote EternalStatic

How's this for resurrecting an old thread?

I think what crapfromthepast was describing above may be a match to the UK 45 version, or something very close to it. In listening via this vinyl 45 rip on YouTube, the sound effects and spoken part are cut from the intro section, and you would need the LP Version (not the U.S. 45 version) to re-create this version in full. While the video only runs to 4:29 (as opposed to the 4:33 stated above for the "A/C Edit"), it sounds like the audio is cut just a little before the true end of the fade in the video.

While I have seen my share of fake edits on YouTube, this one sounds like "the real deal" -- lots of vinyl crackle, etc. Also, when Billy Ocean appeared on Top of the Pops in 1988, he appears to have mimed to this version as well.

I don't have a copy of the "A/C Edit" discussed above, but I would bet it is the same as this UK single version.
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Posted: 22 May 2020 at 9:56am | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

I have the AC Edit on the TM Disc mentioned in the first
post and it's not quite the same as what's in the YouTube
video of the UK 7" Version. The intro on the AC Edit is
about 17 seconds whereas the UK Single's intro is about
26 seconds. Also, there is some "oooh"ing and "aaah"ing
on the UK Intro that isn't there at the same point on the
AC edit.

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Posted: 22 May 2020 at 9:58am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

That's an excellent thought, but the "AC Edit" I have on my hard drive only runs 4:19, but I believe this one comes from a Hot AC disc in the 900 series. Quite a few of those versions were "re-done" and aren't clones of tracks they put out on earlier discs. I'm positive I have a different disc (one of the old red font discs) that has it, too, and that's likely where the A List CD cloned their copy.

The first couple edits of the AC Edit do, indeed, match the UK 45 dub on YouTube, but even the A List disc only runs 4:28. (I believe Ron made a typo above, as the 4:33 time includes silence at the end of the track.)

So, it's possible TM was inspired by the UK 45 edit to create their own, but likely they got it wrong.

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Posted: 22 May 2020 at 10:14am | IP Logged Quote EternalStatic

Oh well! I so wanted to be right about that, haha … But, I think your theory holds a lot of weight -- if I have read correctly, TM goofed sometimes in attempting to do their 45 replications.

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Posted: 22 May 2020 at 3:56pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Well, you were certainly on the right track, and it's definitely a noteworthy discovery that the UK 45 has a totally different edit.

TM nearly always goofed in attempting to do 45 replications. I've A/B'd dozens of tracks from their GoldDiscs, and 90% of the time it doesn't match up exactly. Sometimes they are close, but if you want an exactly correct edit, I wouldn't trust TM Century for songs that are older than 1990. Mostly their edits were on GoldDiscs, but surprisingly, I've found at least one late '80s HitDisc track that is an incorrect edit. While they did use a lot of 45 dubs on early HitDiscs, apparently they tried not to use vinyl whenever possible. I guess creating an edit using a CD source was easier (better) than dubbing the 45 and running it through the dreadful "No Noise" machine.

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