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Posted: 07 September 2007 at 6:52pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite
On Rhino's "Soul Hits of the 70s, vol. 14" (and other CDs), the version of "Doctor's Orders" is referred to in the database as "neither the 45 or LP version". It has an instrumental section that is not on the 45 version. Is this instrumental section featured on the LP version (I don't have it) or was the instrumental part first made available on this Rhino CD? And is it accurate to say this version is an edit of the LP version?

I've come to like that instrumental interlude, as this Rhino CD was the first time I ever had this song on CD, so I'm just curious to know the origins of this part.
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Posted: 07 September 2007 at 10:20pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Revisiting this song for the first time in a long time, hearing the instrumental portion on my Time-Life disc, sounds like an overdub.

Thanks for the tip! Gave me a chance to edit it down to the 45 version and re-eq it too!
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Posted: 07 September 2007 at 10:26pm | IP Logged Quote The Hits Man
The version without the instrumental section was played on the radio back in 1974.

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my commercial 45 issued as midland int'l 10113 lists the
run time on the label as 2:56 and does indeed run that
length.....you'll need to pitch up the cd version below

(S)     (2:56)   &nb sp; Varese Sarabande 302066465 Disco
Classics (45 version)

to match the vinyl 45's speed, but by doing that the song
runs 0:02 short at 2:54..

john, do you have a wave file of your edit so i can
compare it my vinyl 45?


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Posted: 02 July 2013 at 7:19pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Actually, I don't own the edit any more.
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the45prof has posted a 45 of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=mIhk3r30boQ) and it's mono (there's also another post that is mono). Our
review of stereo/mono 45s has this as stereo. Could it be in error, or perhaps it
was another "both"? ed, is yours stereo or mono?

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Posted: 17 December 2022 at 10:52pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Odd that the 45 is labeled as being stereo in the video if
the record played is mono. Did he play the mono side of a
promo 45 instead?

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Posted: 18 December 2022 at 6:42am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
Did anyone get to the bottom of where that instrumental
section first appeared? I know I have it on some later '70s
Dance/Disco compilation LP, but I don't remember its title
(and it might not be its first issuance anyway).

Andy
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Posted: 21 December 2022 at 2:30am | IP Logged Quote davidclark
eriejwg, he actually dubbed the "stereo" side of his promo 45, which as we
can hear, is mono.



The instrumental portion in the incorrect edit was on the LP. Since the 45
seems to have been mono, and the 45prof has informed me that his
stereo/mono promo is mono on both sides, a stereo master of the 45 likely
didn't exist. The first CD to get it right seems to have been 1992 Rhino "The
Disco Years (Boogie Fever) Volume Three". It was on 1976 US K-Tel LP TU
2430 "Block Buster" - I have no idea in what form it was on there.



So, could whoever indicated that the commercial 45 was stereo for our "list of
stereo/mono Top 40 hits for 1975" verify that?

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My US commercial 45 is mono.
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Posted: 21 December 2022 at 1:37pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Is the mono commercial 45 a fold down?

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I recall hearing the single version in stereo on the radio
in '75, so there probably was a true stereo promo at least.

Can anyone check their promo 45s and report?

Thanks!

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Posted: 22 December 2022 at 11:21pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark
the plot thickens.....

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Posted: 23 December 2022 at 12:23pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Paging Hykker and John Pratt...

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Posted: 24 December 2022 at 6:51am | IP Logged Quote Hykker
OK! OK!
I just checked my commercial copy and mine too is mono, though the label says stereo. The B side "Baby Don't Let This
Good Love Die" is stereo. I don't have a promo of this.

Guess it's up to you John! :-)

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Same results here, I have a stereo/mono DJ copy and a stock copy. All sides mono, except for the "Baby Don't Let This Good Love Die" B side of the stock.
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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 3:48pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite
AndrewChouffi wrote:
Did anyone get to the bottom of where that
instrumental
section first appeared? I know I have it on some later '70s
Dance/Disco compilation LP, but I don't remember its title
(and it might not be its first issuance anyway).

Andy


If I'm understanding this correctly, did the instrumental section in the
middle never appear on the original 45 or LP - but only in the later '70s
elsewhere on some LPs?

Though I love the song, I never bought it on 45 or LP. And all I can say is
when I first heard the instrumental section on CD (a Rhino CD), it didn't
seem "new" to me, like "I never heard that part before!"
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