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chendagam
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Posted: 26 July 2007 at 10:57am | IP Logged Quote chendagam

I just picked up the "Piano Man: The Very Best of Billy Joel" CD and
noticed that "JTWUA" is about 8 seconds shorter than the 45. Can anyone
confirm this?
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Posted: 26 July 2007 at 11:38am | IP Logged Quote torcan

Speaking of this song, I know that Billy Joel had a few other promo singles around this time where it was the long version on one side, and the short version on the other ("Big Shot" and "My Life" come to mind), but does anyone know if the "long" version of "Just the Way You Are" was ever pressed onto a 45 - promo or otherwise? It seems odd several of his others were, but this wasn't.

Just curious...
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Posted: 26 July 2007 at 6:40pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

Chendagam, I can confirm that both the mono and stereo sides of my promo 45 have a listed time of (3:27) and an actual time of (3:28) - there was no long/short versions for this promo 45. My commercial 45 for it is under a number of heavy boxes right now, but I'm 99% sure it is the same length as my promo, so feel free to match it up against your CD's length. Torcan, we had a discussion on the Board a while back, featured on both the "Piano Man" and "Movin' Out" threads, that I believe will give you a good explanation as to why there probably was no long/short promo 45 for "Just The Way You Are." Just do a chat board search under "Billy Joel" and "Topic Subject", and select either of the two earlier song threads to access all of the relevant details.
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Posted: 28 July 2007 at 1:50pm | IP Logged Quote The Hits Man

I have a commercial 45 that runs 3:28, the same as what I heard on the radio in 1978.

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Posted: 18 October 2020 at 7:00am | IP Logged Quote David Pro

There are three short versions of "Just the
Way You Are":

3:28 - The correct 45 length. It appears on
the 2-CD various artists compilation Pop
Music: The Modern Era 1976-1999
(Legacy,
J2K 65794).
3:35 - It fades 7 later than the actual 45.
This version appears on the original CD
releases of Greatest Hits Vols. 1 & 2
and on the various artists compilation Pop
Classics of the 70's
(Columbia, CK 45047)
3:20 - It fades 8 seconds earlier than the
actual 45. This version appears on the import
Billy Joel compilation Piano Man: The Very
Best of Billy Joel
.

Edited by David Pro on 19 October 2020 at 9:10am
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Posted: 19 October 2020 at 1:01am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

I didn't know there were 3 versions of the short version. The 3:20 version, I suppose, could be an instance where they faded 8 seconds early to fit the song on the CD. But it's a little odd that Billy's GH 1 & 2 (one of his best sellers) would have a single version that faded 8 seconds later than the single. Obviously, they didn't use the single tape. I'm guessing they weren't paying close enough attention when they decided they should go with the single version, but faded in the wrong spot.
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Posted: 20 October 2020 at 1:16pm | IP Logged Quote David Pro

EdisonLite wrote:
I didn't know there were 3
versions of the short version. The 3:20 version, I
suppose, could be an instance where they faded 8
seconds early to fit the song on the CD. But it's a
little odd that Billy's GH 1 & 2 (one of his best
sellers) would have a single version that faded 8
seconds later than the single. Obviously, they didn't
use the single tape. I'm guessing they weren't paying
close enough attention when they decided they should
go with the single version, but faded in the wrong
spot.

So, the only single edits on the original GH 1 & 2 CD
which are identical to single masters are "Big Shot",
"My Life" and "Pressure". As it was discussed in
another thread, the 3:35 version of "Tell Her About
It" was unique to the original GH 1 & 2 CD and it
wasn't included in subsequent BJ compilations since
the LP and 45 versions of that song are the same
running 3:50.
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Posted: 20 October 2020 at 1:20pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

EdisonLite wrote:
I suppose, could be an instance
where they faded 8 seconds early to fit the song on
the CD. But it's a little odd that Billy's GH 1 & 2
(one of his best sellers) would have a single version
that faded 8 seconds later than the single. Obviously,
they didn't use the single tape. I'm guessing they
weren't paying close enough attention when they
decided they should go with the single version, but
faded in the wrong spot.


I think they were actually trying to fit it onto the
vinyl album. That's why they used the single edits for
GH 1 & 2 and probably why they faded "Just the Way You
Are" early.

Edited by Brian W. on 20 October 2020 at 1:20pm
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Posted: 22 October 2020 at 7:30am | IP Logged Quote Scanner

David Pro wrote:
EdisonLite wrote:
I didn't know
there were 3
versions of the short version. The 3:20 version, I
suppose, could be an instance where they faded 8
seconds early to fit the song on the CD. But it's a
little odd that Billy's GH 1 & 2 (one of his best
sellers) would have a single version that faded 8
seconds later than the single. Obviously, they didn't
use the single tape. I'm guessing they weren't paying
close enough attention when they decided they should
go with the single version, but faded in the wrong
spot.

So, the only single edits on the original GH 1 & 2 CD
which are identical to single masters are "Big Shot",
"My Life" and "Pressure". As it was discussed in
another thread, the 3:35 version of "Tell Her About
It" was unique to the original GH 1 & 2 CD and it
wasn't included in subsequent BJ compilations since
the LP and 45 versions of that song are the same
running 3:50.



Isn't "Say Goodbye To Hollywood" the single version on
GH 1 & 2?
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Posted: 22 October 2020 at 11:17am | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Scanner wrote:

Isn't "Say Goodbye To Hollywood" the single version on GH 1 & 2?


Not exactly. The applause over the intro is a little longer and they fade a few seconds early.

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Posted: 17 November 2020 at 1:15am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Has the single version of "Say Goodbye to Hollywood" (live) appeared on any CD? And when you say "applause over the intro is longer", do you mean there's more applause before the music begins? Or that once the music begins, the applause lasts longer on one of the versions? It sounds like you're saying the second option, but that would be really odd if they did that, so I'm guessing you're meaning the first (?)
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